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Old 09-09-2008, 07:30 PM   #361
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Why can't you answer the question? Its a simple one. It is an important one.

I believe that the behavior of the candidates supporters are hurting his cause.
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I think the phrase was, "my muslim faith"
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:33 PM   #363
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Regarding all the polls, statistics are a funny thing...

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Despite a raft of advantages in the electorate for Democrats, in September's first Gallup Tracking poll, an equal number of Republicans and Democrats were surveyed (including "leaners") from Sept. 3-5, compared to a 10-point Democratic identification advantage two weeks ago. That partisan makeup of the polling pool resulted in a 5-point lead for McCain in Sept. 5 tracking poll. Meanwhile, the new CBS poll features a 6-point swing in partisan composition toward Republicans, which plays some role in the poll's two-point lead for McCain. Finally, the latest USA Today poll, which claims a four-point edge for McCain, was arrived at after a 10-point swing in partisan makeup toward GOP respondents.
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Monday's USA Today poll had a 48-47 split between Democrats and Republicans surveyed. That represents a nearly 10 point shift in party identification toward Republicans since USA Today's July polling. When asked for comment, USA Today polling editor Jim Norman wrote that "it's possible" that their latest sample includes too many Republicans.
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Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz is highly skeptical of the new Gallup, USA Today and CBS polls. About the latter, which showed a statistically insignificant two point lead for McCain, Abramowitz said: "One reason for the dramatic difference between the two recent CBS polls is that the two samples differed fairly dramatically in terms of partisan composition. The first sample was 35.2% Democratic, 26.2 percent Republicans, and 38.6 percent independent. The second sample was 34.9% Democratic, 31.1% Republican, and 34.0% independent. That's a change from a 9 point Democratic advantage to a 3.8 point Democratic advantage. That alone would probably explain about half of the difference in candidate preferences between the two [CBS] polls."
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:42 PM   #364
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Why can't you answer the question? Its a simple one. It is an important one.

I believe that the behavior of the candidates supporters are hurting his cause.
It's easier to just avoid it.

I agree that the vicious crap is hurting Obama. It there anything he can do? I dont think so. Until KoS, Media Matters and the other rumormongers realize their actions are hurting their guy and they put a stop to it, the polls will keep showing a lead for McCain/Palin.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:43 PM   #365
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I think the phrase was, "my muslim faith"
Why are you going after Obama?


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Old 09-09-2008, 07:44 PM   #366
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Would it surprise you to know I intend on voting for him?

I fail to see how my point of his slips being used against him is going against him. It seems to me there is more validity to an attack on him would bear more weight than an attack on the daughter of a candidate.
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I was being sarcastic.
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Why can't you answer the question? Its a simple one. It is an important one.
If the media, the Obama campaign or surrogates were making an issue of this, sure I think it wouldn't help him.

But they're not.

The main political blog that I check out on a daily basis is very left-leaning and I haven't seen it there at all either.
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It seems to me there is more validity to an attack on him would bear more weight than an attack on the daughter of a candidate.
Who is attacking her?

Why can't you answer that simple question? It's an important one.
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So do you think the American public will support someone whose supporters are attacking a woman with vicious lies, her daughter with vicious lies, and now twisting the main candidates daughters words are going to help their cause?
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I was being sarcastic.

My apologies, it was lost upon me.
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Anitram, are you saying she has not had vicious rumors spread about her? Because I think that can be stipulated.
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So do you think the American public will support someone whose supporters are attacking a woman with vicious lies, her daughter with vicious lies, and now twisting the main candidates daughters words are going to help their cause?
You know what, I think 99.999% of the people who are following this election closely have not even heard of this story or seen this clip.

Like I said, I read a very leftist blog, it ain't on there. I'm sure there are others where it is on. But if you think that a handful of supporters who may talk to each other on a handful of blogs (since this is NOT widespread) are influencing the general public, well I have to tell you that they and their egos would probably love to hear that they've apparently become this powerful.

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What are these vicious rumors? I haven't heard one single rumor about McCain's daughter.



If you're going to pay that much attention to the extreme fringe and try and claim that they're actually holding sway over a good portion of the voters, I think you're stretching just a weeeee bit.
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If you think that it is not making the airwaives on a daily basis and being read out loud by talk radio hosts, I do not know what to say. There is not a liberal or right wing talk show host that I have not heard it mentioned on here in Boston.
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