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Old 09-07-2008, 05:32 PM   #136
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It takes registered voters going to the polls to win elections.

Remove cauci - and only count registered voters that voted.

Hillary is the nom.

No cauci in November.
Frankly, caucuses should be banned.
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:33 PM   #137
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They are ripe with fraud.
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I think they are strange, but worse than that, they can be coercive in a sense.

That said, everyone knew that was the system, so if you chose to play it by ignoring those states, then you should be lambasted for running a poorly thought out campaign.
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They are ripe with fraud.
More than anything, though, they are undemocratic.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. We should have a nationwide runoff election, instead of partisan primaries and caucuses. Let the two candidates that voting public prefers the most run in the final election.

As it stands, even primaries can be flooded with voters from the other party trying to influence the election, particularly if you're in a state where one party has a caucus and the other has a primary.
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Yeah, sure, right!
It might be a good idea to calm down, and then get to know the posters in here before jumping down their throats. Maybe reading a few more threads before posting would be a good idea.
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I think they are strange, but worse than that, they can be coercive in a sense.

That said, everyone knew that was the system, so if you chose to play it by ignoring those states, then you should be lambasted for running a poorly thought out campaign.
( I have said and I was only partly joking, that at the cauci
I would be partying with the Obama girls and not the Hillary blue hairs )


there is a term in baseball called

small ball


if you are the weaker team
and you can't swing for the fences and hit home runs

you concentrate on the small things
walks, singles, stolen bases, errors and hope that you will eek out a victory

it can and does happen
but the weaker team advances



( I really don't know shit about baseball, but I think I got this small ball concept mostly? right )
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( I really don't know shit about baseball, but I think I got this small ball concept mostly? right )
What prevents the stronger team

from employing the same strategy?
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there is a term in baseball called

small ball


if you are the weaker team
and you can't swing for the fences and hit home rums

you concentrate on the small things
walks, singles, stolen bases, errors and hope that you will eek out a victory

it can and does happen
but the weaker team advances



( I really don't know shit about baseball, but I think I got this small ball concept mostly? right )
Playing small ball has nothing to do with being a weaker team. In fact, teams that live and die by the home run aren't often successful consistently. Small ball teams are good, solid teams.
/baseball
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( I have said and I was only partly joking, that at the cauci
I would be partying with the Obama girls and not the Hillary blue hairs )


there is a term in baseball called

small ball


if you are the weaker team
and you can't swing for the fences and hit home rums

you concentrate on the small things
walks, singles, stolen bases, errors and hope that you will eek out a victory

it can and does happen
but the weaker team advances



( I really don't know shit about baseball, but I think I got this small ball concept mostly? right )
I love this post. It's almost accurate.
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More than anything, though, they are undemocratic.
yes, Hillary won the election in Texas, she got the most votes from the voters that went to the polls on primary election day.

but because of a weird caucus thing, where people that voted had a chance to come back at night and caucus - for few hours, Obama got awarded more delegates. Working families, with children (Latinos) were less likely to be able to caucus.

So Texas, Florida and Michigan three of the largest states went for Hillary and they were not properly allocated in the delegate totals to represent the will of the people that took time to vote.



The process was very undeomocratic.
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I love this post. It's almost accurate.
I did say I don't know shit about baseball

but looks like my hunch

was not way off the mark

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In the sport of baseball, small-ball is an informal and colloquial term for an offensive strategy in which the batting team emphasizes placing runners on base and then advancing them into position to score a run in a deliberate, methodical way. This strategy places a high value on individual runs and attempts to score them without requiring extra base hits, or sometimes without base hits at all, instead using bases on balls, stolen bases, sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly balls, the hit-and-run play, and aggressive baserunning. A commonly used term for a run produced playing small-ball is a "manufactured run." This style of play is more often found in National League game situations than in the American League due in large part to the absence of the designated hitter in the National League
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( I have said and I was only partly joking, that at the cauci
I would be partying with the Obama girls and not the Hillary blue hairs )


there is a term in baseball called

small ball


if you are the weaker team
and you can't swing for the fences and hit home runs

you concentrate on the small things
walks, singles, stolen bases, errors and hope that you will eek out a victory

it can and does happen
but the weaker team advances



( I really don't know shit about baseball, but I think I got this small ball concept mostly? right )
The best teams do both.

Oh, and pitching.
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So which is it D???

One post you are saying, :"But he has numbers, anitram, NUMBERS

Now it is polls are meaningless. You are talking our of both sides of your mouth in this issue on posts just 30 minutes apart. I guess it all depends on how it shapes up for Obama. If his numbers are up....it is in the bag. Look look, see...Obama leads!!!! Yeah!!!!

If he falls, the numbers are meaningless and blah blah blah.

You crack me up!
My initial post went right over your head, apparently. My "he has numbers!" post was completely sarcastic. Did you think I was actually siding with Strongbow?
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So which is it D???

One post you are saying, :"But he has numbers, anitram, NUMBERS

Now it is polls are meaningless. You are talking our of both sides of your mouth in this issue on posts just 30 minutes apart. I guess it all depends on how it shapes up for Obama. If his numbers are up....it is in the bag. Look look, see...Obama leads!!!! Yeah!!!!

If he falls, the numbers are meaningless and blah blah blah.

You crack me up!
Actually, he was being sarcastic with the "numbers" thing.

As with any new thing you get into, it takes a while to get the flow of it. Especially with sarcasm and who employs it and when.
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I did say I don't know shit about baseball

but looks like my hunch

was not way off the mark
You were......in the ballpark.
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