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In the other thread, the 'McCain could win if he picks Palin' thread, because I posted the same thing there and that's how he responded, by asking me if I thought he was qualified BEFORE running the campaign in January 2007, and I said yes.
__________________But I also said that he and I measure 'qualified' in very different ways. |
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Ah, I was scratching my head going through the posts here.
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all the snark aside, this totally misses the point, though i appreciate the attempt to wield empty American electoral catchphrases and pre-digested soundbytes as if one actually had the history and context to understand them. |
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You know, I've disagreed with right wing American posters here on plenty of occasions, but none of them have ever implied, as you seem to be doing, that my point of view on US politics shouldn't be taken seriously because I lacked the 'history and context' to understand it.
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But more importantly, where's Mittens?
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you made a valid point she has executive experience the others are only legislators and Obama has no real accomplishments or anything to suggest he is a reformer. Palin has much more of a track record in two years than Obama has in 4 years also, she went to Kuwait to visit the Alaskan National Guard. and as Governor she is in commander in cheif of the Alaskan National Guard Obama never went to visit the Illinois National Guard serving in Desert Shield. It seems that when people can not give legitimate responses to opinion and statements in here they start writing about the poster or the style or some other nonsense. I take it for what it is. Is it a concession to the better argument? |
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on that post, i think you missed it. i think Europeans tend not to understand some specifically American context, especially in regards to race. i think many Europeans don't know nearly as much about America as they think they do. i was referring to something specific. |
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good for you. ![]() and when others are faced with legitimate responses to opinion, they get deliberately simplistic. so an argument like this: Quote:
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I admit I have some bias
do you think you have any? |
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i have convictions. and i think i see the Republican party for what it is. when it comes to FYM, i think some of us think we are being contrarian when they're just trying to get a rise out of others by taking positions that are entirely contradictory to their long-held, oft-well-defended positions. when i have comments on what's been dismissed as "style" it's about the inability to actually have a discussion with some who post a series of "facts" with zero analysis that bury any points of disagreement and discussion in paragraphs that make most other posters leave the thread. bias? you decide. |
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The context is - and I'm kind of surprised that I have to spell it out - that, here on FYM, conservatives are constantly being told: - that they hate women, if they are against abortion on demand.... - that they hate gays, if they have reservations about gay marriage.... - that they hate blacks, if they are not on board with Obama. And yet, the nomination of Sarah Palin has highlighted the latent misogyny of some on the left - and I don't necessarily just mean on this forum. Or, maybe, just maybe, it isn't actually misogyny. Maybe the criticisms of the family and life of Sarah Palin - how she CHOSEN to live her life - are being done just for the sake of temporary political expediency. But, if that is the case, then frankly, it's even worse. As Andrew Sullivan said with regard to Bush, he thought Bush probably wasn't a real homopobe, but was allying himself with homophobes for the sake of political advancement - which as Sullivan said - and I agree - is worse. |
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no. this is what i think conservatives choose to hear about themselves. i've offered myriad, nuanced, thoughtful, researched posts about Obama and race, and i've offered as much as i can to show how i believe race matters, and how it's impossible to view Obama without taking race into account. if others choose this to mean that i believe they are racists, i cannot be accountable for their ignorance. |
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i do not believe that any serious person seriously believes that Sarah Palin is *prepared* to be President of the United States. |
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