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Old 08-22-2008, 12:18 PM   #481
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So you don't think she would need to be vetted at least slightly? She wasn't asked for a single piece of paper...
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deep has said a lot of things I disagree with but the one thing he's said that I concur with fully is that Hillary doesn't need to be vetted.
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So you don't think she would need to be vetted at least slightly? She wasn't asked for a single piece of paper...
No, you and right radio are making a story about nothing...

But you guys do make me laugh.
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I'm sure that Multiple Mansion McCain will play out well with the public!
If I were Obama, I'd be careful about making wealth an issue in this campaign...
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If I were Obama, I'd be careful about making wealth an issue in this campaign...
Haha, yes the Republican meme.

Obama was raised by a single mother on food stamps and was paying off his student loans up until a couple of years ago when he suddenly made $ off his book deal. All the money he has made has come from the books he's written, the royalties and the advances.

Not from marrying a multi-millionaire blonde heiress 20 years his junior.

I thought you Americans gave props to people who rose from the lower classes and through their own hard work became successful? Is the American dream dead?
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If I were Obama, I'd be careful about making wealth an issue in this campaign...

You're on a roll today...
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See, that's just it.

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Most FYMers do probably prefer Crest®



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Haha, yes the Republican meme.

Obama was raised by a single mother on food stamps and was paying off his student loans up until a couple of years ago when he suddenly made $ off his book deal. All the money he has made has come from the books he's written, the royalties and the advances.

Not from marrying a multi-millionaire blonde heiress 20 years his junior.

I thought you Americans gave props to people who rose from the lower classes and through their own hard work became successful? Is the American dream dead?


Not to mention being an African American male and succeeding against those odds. Easier to be a white guy, blonde heiress or not.

Oh and it's 8 houses, not 7- according to the Washington Post. One being a half million dollar loft they bought for Meghan McCain. That must be nice.

Mitt Romney recently bought another mansion, in CA.
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Obama was raised by a single mother on food stamps and was paying off his student loans up until a couple of years ago when he suddenly made $ off his book deal. All the money he has made has come from the books he's written, the royalties and the advances.

and what's also important is that he actually wrote the books himself. Mark Salter writes McCain's books for him.

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Not from marrying a multi-millionaire blonde heiress 20 years his junior.

after divorcing his first wife who got all ugly after a horrific car wreck.

and John McCain, Prisoner of War, took his second honeymoon in ... wait for it ... Hawaii. elitist!!!
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I'm sure he stayed in a Motel 6
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and what's also important is that he actually wrote the books himself. Mark Salter writes McCain's books for him.




after divorcing his first wife who got all ugly after a horrific car wreck.

and John McCain, Prisoner of War, took his second honeymoon in ... wait for it ... Hawaii. elitist!!!
Why is it a shock to people in here that McCain is rich? Both candidates are extremely well-off, and if you're an American citizen who doesn't realize that or who hates either of them for being rich, than you're an idiot.

I think statistics like this say much, much more about the candidates than their wealth does:

In the years 2000 through 2007, Barack Obama donated between 0.4% and 6.1% of his net income to charitable causes.

McCain released his 2006 and 2007 tax returns, and in those years he gave 28.6% and 27.3% of his income to charitable causes.
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Why is it a shock to people in here that McCain is rich? Both candidates are extremely well-off, and if you're an American citizen who doesn't realize that or who hates either of them for being rich, than you're an idiot.

I think statistics like this say much, much more about the candidates than their wealth does:

In the years 2000 through 2007, Barack Obama donated between 0.4% and 6.1% of his net income to charitable causes.

McCain released his 2006 and 2007 tax returns, and in those years he gave 28.6% and 27.3% of his income to charitable causes.
Between 2000 and 2005, Obama had no wealth to speak of, and therefore didn't have the means to donate that kind of money. His current wealth is still far, far less than McCain's.
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Why is it a shock to people in here that McCain is rich? Both candidates are extremely well-off, and if you're an American citizen who doesn't realize that or who hates either of them for being rich, than you're an idiot.

I think statistics like this say much, much more about the candidates than their wealth does:

In the years 2000 through 2007, Barack Obama donated between 0.4% and 6.1% of his net income to charitable causes.

McCain released his 2006 and 2007 tax returns, and in those years he gave 28.6% and 27.3% of his income to charitable causes.

1. yes, both are well off
2. Obama is worth a fraction of what McCain is worth
3. McCain married extraordinary wealth
4. Obama earned his wealth

you realize that McCain can afford to give away less than a third of his income because the McCains are worth hundreds of millions of dollars?
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They were paying off student loans. I'm sure they will give more to charity in the future. The McCains are in a much better position to give to charity, and have plenty left for themselves. And 8 homes/condos.

Remember, Bill Gates did not give much money to charity compared to his income until Ted Turner publicly called him out on that-for some perspective on that issue.
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I think statistics like this say much, much more about the candidates than their wealth does:

In the years 2000 through 2007, Barack Obama donated between 0.4% and 6.1% of his net income to charitable causes.

McCain released his 2006 and 2007 tax returns, and in those years he gave 28.6% and 27.3% of his income to charitable causes.
This shows me you have a weak grasp of the real picture.

McCain's income is nothing compared to his wealth. He could donate 100% of his income and still be a millionaire off his wife's wealth. Obama doesn't have that...


What's scary is that most Americans will fall for this type of crap.
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