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Old 10-19-2013, 01:48 PM   #811
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He didn't used to be.
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Kind of shows that having a liberal in the White House can show a whole different side of someone
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:46 PM   #812
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Pork barreling is outrageous. ...

Take a look at what McConnell got in Kentucky...things start to crystallize a bit. Why isn't his ugly mug front and centre?
Because the Olmsted Locks and Dam project was spending previously authorized by the President and approved by both the House and Senate?

'Kentucky kickback': an issue for Mitch McConnell or just friendly fire?

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The Olmsted Locks and Dam project, spanning the Ohio River between Olmsted, Ill., and Paducah, Ky., is no "bridge to nowhere," the notorious Alaska earmark that launched the drive in 2005 to end earmarks. The dam replacement project aims to ease a bottleneck for barges about 17 miles upstream of the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. The Army Corps of Engineers calls the site "the busiest stretch of river in America's inland waterways."

When Congress first authorized the project in 1988, the estimate for completion was $775 million. By FY 2011, costs had soared to more than $1.4 billion, and the Army Corps says it will need authorization to spend up to $2.9 billion to finish the work. Despite delays and cost overruns, the project retained bipartisan support. The proposed increase was included in President Obama’s FY 2014 budget and authorized by both Senate and House committees.

It's not clear whether Senate leaders expected the blowback they're getting on this project. Accounts from aides, who will not be quoted publicly, differ on this point. What is clear is that Senate leaders, on both sides of the aisle, quickly rallied to its defense.

Both McConnell and Senate majority leader Harry Reid denied that the project was an earmark or that McConnell had requested it. Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) of Tennessee, the top Republican on the Senate Energy and Water Development subcommittee, said in a statement that he and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) of California, who chairs the panel, had requested the project and that it would save taxpayer dollars.

“According to the Army Corps of Engineers, $160 million taxpayer dollars will be wasted because of canceled contracts if this language is not included,” Senator Alexander said, in a statement.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:14 PM   #813
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It's actually an interesting conversation to have (though not really on topic) every time somebody states that there has to be a continued increase in spending otherwise you'll be dinged with costs related to contract termination. It's always highly contextual, but there are plenty of situations where you are actually better off swallowing such costs.
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It looks like nbcrusader is on one hell of a trolling tirade and is lost in his own world.
Let's keep the personal commentary out of this.
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Let's keep the personal commentary out of this.
Sorry about that. I thought I was being observant.
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Damn that Obama causing the global financial recession of 2008.
Three cheers for those pre-Tea Party "moderate" and "sensible" Republicans that are all the rave in FYM these days.
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I don't live in California.
Didn't you live in the Bay area?
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The rest of your comment isn't even analogous to the current situation
It isn't meant to be analogous it's meant to be illustrative that Democrats are only interested in "the law is the law" when it suits them. Democratic governors and mayors openly disregard immigration laws for instance.

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"the Left" didn't throw an epic hissy fit, grind the government to a halt and threaten California with economic calamity if they didn't get their way.
No, the Left threatens California with economic calamity by its expansion of government and its pension programs, oppressive business regulation, an open border policy and confiscatory tax rates. But we have a thread on that.
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He didn't used to be.
We have a black president now.
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Yep.

Kind of shows that having a liberal black in the White House can show a whole different side of someone
Fixed. I didn't know I was a raving racist until 5 years ago either.
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What are you even talking about?
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I deliberately left out "black" because I knew conservatives here will get up in arms about it. But thanks for pointing out race is a factor here on your own.
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I believe that Indy is making fun of the argument that Republicans have such vitriol against the President because of his race (an argument that, I must admit, has always struck me as questionable).
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I believe that Indy is making fun of the argument that Republicans have such vitriol against the President because of his race (an argument that, I must admit, has always struck me as questionable).
Maybe not all conservatives have issue with his race. But based on the signs held by Tea Party members at rallies, it is safe to say race is an issue with plenty of Obama haters.
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