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Old 10-18-2013, 04:25 PM   #781
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That level of detachment from reality is scary when it's essentially half the country.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:16 PM   #782
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Obeying the Constitution by shutting down the government over a constitutionally upheld law you don't like?

Right.
The House of Representatives has every constitutional right to not fund a program. We have a law mandating a fence along our southern border but we have no such fence because its construction has not been funded. This country had a manned space program for 50 years until it was defunded.

And what does the Left in your state do when a state law created by popular vote in CA is upheld by the CA Supreme Court? Do they declare Prop 8 "the law of the land"? No, no they don't. They get a federal judge to overturn it and then fail to defend their own law or citizens in front of the US Supreme Court. There's a precedent for you.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:19 PM   #783
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What are you even talking about?
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #784
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But shutting down the government and threatening global economic collapse because you can't get your way after getting clobbered in an election is.
Who proposed the Full Faith and Credit law that would mandate the US Treasury to pay debt service and pensions before anything else insuring stability and preventing default.

The GOP

Who made sure that never became law?

Democrats
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What are you even talking about?
DOMA was "the law of the land." Why did you fight it?

Citizens United is "the law of the land." Why is it still discussed here as if it is controversial?
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How are they in any way the same thing as what we're talking about?
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Warning: Big Government Enclosed

 
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Obama’s policy strategy: Ignore laws
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Napolitano: Obama Administration Can Choose What Laws To Enforce

Obama's "you must respect the law of the land" argument was invalidated by his own actions on numerous occasions.
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INDY lives in an alternate economic reality.

In the week leading up to the weekend in advance of the August 2nd deadline in 2011, the S&P 500 declined by 3.9% and was off a total of 6.8% before an agreement was signed into law. It is also worth noting that during this period, bond yields and oil price also experienced material declines.
Stock market sinks as investors fret over end to Fed stimulus plan - Business - The Boston Globe

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The signs are all pointing to an improving economy as more people find jobs, home sales surge in some areas, and confidence rises. Yet investors are selling stocks and bonds, seemingly fixated on just one thing: How soon the Federal Reserve might stop pumping money into the market.

Stocks have fallen sharply for two straight days, pulling the Dow Jones industrial average down 560 points, or nearly 4 percent, to 14,758.32. The sell-off started when Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke suggested Wednesday that a healthier economy would prompt the central bank to start winding down its bond-buying program later this year.
The stock market’s nervous initial reaction only gained momentum Thursday, when the Dow index lost 353 points. It was the market’s worst day since November 2011, as investors worried that the economic recovery could be thrown off course if the central bank cuts back.
You were saying.
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Welcome to crazy town.
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DOMA was "the law of the land." Why did you fight it? Citizens United is "the law of the land." Why is it still discussed here as if it is controversial?
You let me know when anyone threatened collapse of the global economy over these issues. We've won because we've won elections and changed hearts and minds. Bigots like your representatives have lost because you have no arguments to make and you can't hold a candle to real people who love each other. Look not just at election results and court cases, but at polls. We've won because we have better arguments than you. If you'd like to do the same, start there. Don't suicide bomb the financial markets because you can't get your way. Win elections. Convince voters.

Given the historic disapproval rates of the GOP and the Tea Party, you could use the PR. Everyone hates you because you have NOTHING to offer but hate. Even the Greed wing of the GOP wants nothing to do with mouth breathing Tea Partiers. Stupid is as Stupid does.
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After GOP landslide of Election 2010, what next for Obama?

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Republicans scored at least a 60-seat gain in the House, the biggest partisan shift since the Democrats gained 75 House seats in 1948.
The petty ideologue would rather bring financial calamity to this country than negotiate. Why should we expect anything different regarding the most costly, partisan law on the books?
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You want the ACA overturned, then elect people to do it.

The right continues to lose elections, and even in the house they were out voted but maintained or even gained seats.

This is nothing more than a grudge and a tantrum. Societies change over time. Slavery was part of the constitution as well. It's not legal anymore.

Want Obamacare gone, win the presidency and then see if you can remove it. Good luck tho. While there are some shitty aspects (being in pocket of ins companies for one), a LOT of people are going to benefit from this law
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Obama won 2 landslide elections.

Done.
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