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Old 10-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #751
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Looks like it's all over.

Total and embarrassing failure by the GOP. They shut down the government for what? A clean bill?

Good luck with the Tea Party caucus guys. God willing, you'll elect even more of them next time. Country loves 'em!
It could easily happen again in 3 months - wonder how January will turn out.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:08 PM   #752
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All over? The Senate agreed to a deal, but would you really be shocked if the Tea Partiers refuse once again to vote for it, and if Boehner refuses to bring it to a vote without them?

I wouldn't be shocked. The Tea Party is full of gullible, ill-informed know-it-alls.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:45 PM   #753
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It could easily happen again in 3 months - wonder how January will turn out.
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“Hopefully next time it won’t be in the 11th hour,” he said. “We’ve got to get out of the habit of governing by crisis.”
As he was walking out of the briefing room, a reporter asked if this would happen again in just a few months.
"No," he said, and continued walking.
I found this super amusing.

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Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona called the political stalemate, which rattled financial markets and partially shuttered the federal government, "one of the most shameful chapters I have seen in the years I've spent in the Senate."
I'd like to see more of this interview, because I'm wondering about context of the entire statement. If it's what it looks like he was trying to say, I gotta admit, sometimes I do love John McCain.
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Annnnd, we're done here.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:16 PM   #755
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There are left wing fringe elements in the United States. They just aren't in Congress. Not enough gerrymandering.
Meet the Progressive House Caucus

Congressional Progressive Caucus : Home :
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This is "fringe" only in Teabagistan.

Raising the minimum wage? Protecting social security? Dogs and cats living together? Mass hysteria!

Or, "reality" for the rest of the developed world.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:43 AM   #757
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I'm pretty sure the poster known as Indy is on record as opposing any kind of minimum wage. I stand to be corrected, since it isn't my country and I do skim comments sometimes.
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The only thing that surprises me about the Tea Party crowd is that they continue to learn absolutely nothing from their political and electoral blunders.
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You want a powerful borderline fringe Democrat? Look at the asshat about to become mayor of New York City, Bill de Blasio. That's as close as you're coming, and he's still not as bad as the tea party leadership.
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The only thing that surprises me about the Tea Party crowd is that they continue to learn absolutely nothing from their political and electoral blunders.
It's seems that one of the primary characteristics of the Tea Party crowd, and I've seen this born out personally with some family members, is an almost fanatical belief that no matter what the results of their efforts are, the fault is never theirs. Or rather, the only fault they're willing to accept is not being unbending enough. Which is why the narrative for this utter and total defeat of their tactics is being spun as "well if we'd just been more firm" or "if those spineless Senate Republicans hadn't betrayed us."

They've completely isolated themselves from reality.
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It's seems that one of the primary characteristics of the Tea Party crowd, and I've seen this born out personally with some family members, is an almost fanatical belief that no matter what the results of their efforts are, the fault is never theirs. Or rather, the only fault they're willing except is not being unbending enough. Which is why the narrative for this utter and total defeat of their tactics is being spun as "well if we'd just been more firm" or "if those spineless Senate Republicans hadn't betrayed us." They've completely isolated themselves from reality.
I've seen this belief too. It's rather odd, and amusing, to see these people complain about the lack of responsibility these days, yet they lack responsibility themselves.
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But spending is out of control. Only way to stop it is destroy everything!!

Am I missing something or could the GOP/Tea propose amendments to the existing ACA to try and change the parts of the law they find horrible?

And not just throw it out? But offer alternatives? I am positive that those on the Right have some ideas, and probably good ones that can take a average law and make it better.

But we can't compromise anymore. It's all or nothing. And really just shows a very deep hatred (and I would argue racist) towards Obama.

Why make the law better, and even try to take some credit for it , when you can just try and make sure Obama fails.
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