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Old 10-04-2013, 12:49 AM   #481
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Why? Why should there be ANY compromise on the ACA?
Because the majority of your brothers and sisters (you know, your fellow citizens) don't want it in its current form.
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I can't believe you're all still arguing about Universal Health Care.
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I can't believe you're all still arguing about Universal Health Care.
Yeah, the 1970s called, they want their controversy back.
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I can't believe you're all still arguing about Universal Health Care.
The funny thing is - I support Universal Health Care. I consider it a basic, human right. This Affordable Care Act is an overly complicated boondoggle with special interest groups flying around it like flies on shite.

Our politicians are thieves - yet both "sides" have their volunteer soldiers that steadily march to bumper sticker slogans and snarky tweets. Those in power don't have to worry much, they have the blind pawns to do all the work for them.

Why anyone would register for either one of these parties is beyond me.
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So why don't more people start voting Greens, Libertarian, etc. I understand they don't have a realistic chance but it gives more people a voice and might shake up the two major parties.
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Both parties are a farce and the interaction between them is somehow 10 times worse. You'd think people would have figured out by now that both options are a dead end and choose another one, but we're in a bad cycle of defensive voting to cancel out the greater of two evils, so we can't actually choose a good option.
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It's largely the same here, though thankfully the Greens have a voice and also a Senate seat.
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Because the majority of your brothers and sisters (you know, your fellow citizens) don't want it in its current form.

Give it a chance.

If it's so awful when poor people suddenly have health insurance, then the American people will have ample opportunity to elect Republicans who can change or repeal the law.

You know, like how adults would.
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I can't believe you're all still arguing about Universal Health Care.

It shocks me too.
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Representatives are elected to govern, not to protest.
It would be fun to revisit the Wisconsin union ruckus from a couple of years ago to see if you felt the same way when Democratic state representatives fled and hide in Illinois to prevent the elected Republican legislature and elected Republican governor Scott Walker from passing right to work laws.
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This is a breakdown of democracy, plain and simple. Of course all sides have played politics and used the process to their advantage, but have we ever had a minority hold the government hostage to change a law that is already on the books? Debt ceiling talks have always been about budgets, never about changing history.

This is a dangerous precedent these Tea Party children are playing. A minority representation has continued to lose their way so they're throwing a tantrum. Those that are defending this game, what will you do in the future when an extreme left sanction of the party holds the government hostage in order to defund a war that a Republican president started? Will you defend it and dismiss it as "it's in their rights"?
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It's funny how these are always the same people who are decrying when a minority group tries to fight for their rights. Hypocritical entitled children.
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Because the majority of your brothers and sisters (you know, your fellow citizens) don't want it in its current form.
So, when in August of 2004, 67% of Americans believed that the Iraq war was a mistake, and yet Bush was re-elected shortly there after, did the Democrats attempt to defund the war in a budgetary resolution? In fact, Steny Hoyer openly mocked any such proposals by "rogue" Democrats like Kucinich and guess what, they went nowhere.

Because the Democrats simply DO NOT HAVE the equivalent of a Tea Party caucus on the left. Why is that so hard to accept for you, AEON? I've asked you over and over again to point out a group of individuals on their side who have as much say in governance from a minority position as the Tea Party has and you have just glossed over it.

The mere existence of these Tea Party Republicans is what is causing this issue. This much has been stated over and over again by rank and file Republicans and yet you refuse to accept it.
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It would be fun to revisit the Wisconsin union ruckus from a couple of years ago to see if you felt the same way when Democratic state representatives fled and hide in Illinois to prevent the elected Republican legislature and elected Republican governor Scott Walker from passing right to work laws.

I'm sure you were outraged at those terrorists subverting the will of the people of Wisconsin
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