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Old 02-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #16
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Life Expectancy Plunges For White High School Dropouts In U.S.

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Old 02-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #17
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How so?

Examples.
I don't think I'm alone in the outsider's perspective that America is a bickering us-against-them nation. Granted, you're not at war with one another, so credit where credit is due.
You've also let way too much money work its way into your political process; to the point that nobody is really sure who's running the joint anymore.
You've also got a highest percentage of the population behind bars than other other country on the planet.
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If this is what INDY means, then it is nothing to get upset over. What he said earlier made it sound like the U.S. was going to be like Russia after the end of the Soviet Union, where the life expectancy plummeted to age 55 in 2000.
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I suppose I'm envious that some essentials like healthcare, housing, and education were comparatively cheaper for my parents than for me.

I'm envious that my non-college educated grandparents were able to find good work at good wages with good benefits and a security that let them stay with a single company for 35 years. They were part of a mid-century middle class that is, indeed, vanishing as more money flows to the top tier of society.

I can feel envious of that.

However, I don't think my parents and grandparents have/had better values, though I think they got by with a lot less. I also think they were less pressured, and competed on a much more relaxed playing field as women were kept under lock and key ad the rest of the world had been shattered by the 2nd World War (or was still in the comparative stone ages).
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Politics kind of bores me, so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kind of counter intuitive to long for the days of Reagan and lament the decline of the middle class?
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Stop proving my point by insisting on being such a dimwit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/he...bese.html?_r=0

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For the first time in two centuries, the current generation of children in America may have shorter life expectancies than their parents, according to a new report, which contends that the rapid rise in childhood obesity, if left unchecked, could shorten life spans by as much as five years.

The report, to be published Thursday in The New England Journal of Medicine, says the prevalence and severity of obesity is so great, especially in children, that the associated diseases and complications - Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, kidney failure, cancer - are likely to strike people at younger and younger ages.

"Obesity is such that this generation of children could be the first basically in the history of the United States to live less healthful and shorter lives than their parents," said Dr. David S. Ludwig, director of the obesity program at Children's Hospital Boston, and one of the authors of the report.
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I don't think I'm alone in the outsider's perspective that America is a bickering us-against-them nation. Granted, you're not at war with one another, so credit where credit is due.
You've also let way too much money work its way into your political process; to the point that nobody is really sure who's running the joint anymore.
You've also got a highest percentage of the population behind bars than other other country on the planet.

Indeed, there are problems when you are 310m diverse people stretched across a vast continent. Agreed about the prisons, and our comparative violence (though crime has dropped dramatically since the Clinton years), and our messy politics. I would have also said health are, but thankfully universal coverage is on the way.

So, yes, we got problems. But I think "a fucking mess" is the maple leaf sewed on every suitcase an item of clothing talking.
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So, yes, we got problems. But I think "a fucking mess" is the maple leaf sewed on every suitcase an item of clothing talking.
hahaha. I'm one of the least patriotic people going (I'm happy to live here, but it certainly doesn't define me). But point taken
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Stop proving my point by insisting on being such a dimwit.

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OK, but this has more to do with lack of exercise and healthy meals than the decline of American values. This is not related to the economoy or progressive values.
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Stop proving my point by insisting on being such a dimwit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/he...bese.html?_r=0
Oh, I forgot too add:

Way too many fat people
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OK, but this has more to do with lack of exercise and healthy meals than the decline of American values. This is not related to the economoy or progressive values.
The example I gave actually related to the job market and the original post. Pretty good for a dimwit.

Yeah, there are a lot of fat people in America. There have been for a long time, no reason to blame that solely on the current administration.
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no reason to blame that solely on the current administration.
You Obama shills have such short memories

CNN - President Obama: "A Krispy Kreme in every cafeteria in the nation"
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I just got through a blizzard, can't worry about all that. Sorry.

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I don't ever actually wish I lived in a different country either. Just some place warmer, with no snow.
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You (as the OP) sound like one of the Roman writers from the final century of the Western Empire, or most of the folk who thought the world was going to end in 1000AD which was surprisingly a lot of people. Society is far from getting worse and could still get better in how we treat people. Last days of empire and all that yada yada.
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Last days of republic, more like. If only there were a strong leader in the provinces who could take charge, a first citizen of some kind.
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