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Old 02-13-2006, 03:49 PM   #16
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is brown sugar next?
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i thought that song was about heroin.
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I doubt the song was selected as a "pump up" song for its lyrics.


but i shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable in a university setting -- which would be my home, which is why universities are different -- due to the lyrics of the pump-up song. i can see how people would feel uncomfortable by those lyrics -- why not change them? i'm sure there are better songs out there anyway ...

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i thought that song was about heroin.
That may be the artist's intent, but the standard being used is "how it makes a listener feel"
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but i shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable in a university setting -- which would be my home, which is why universities are different -- due to the lyrics of the pump-up song. i can see how people would feel uncomfortable by those lyrics -- why not change them? i'm sure there are better songs out there anyway ...

The location is a hockey rink, not a dorm hall.


Seems like a battle for a theoretical win.
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What if they played, for example, that Eminem song Kim-theoretically obviously, because that wouldn't be used at a sporting event. Would people consider that appropriate?
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The location is a hockey rink, not a dorm hall.


Seems like a battle for a theoretical win.


sorry, but when i'm boarding at college, the entire campus is my "home." it's as much my hockey rink as yours.
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That may be the artist's intent, but the standard being used is "how it makes a listener feel"


relax. i was joking around.
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relax. i was joking around.
Sorry, my bad. I wasn't quite sure about your proposed other meaning.
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Sorry, my bad. I wasn't quite sure about your proposed other meaning.


i thought the song was supposed to be ambiguous -- that it could be about a black woman, or heroin, possibly both, perhaps even simultaneously.

sex, drugs, and rock and roll!

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I never thought the song was particularly about anything. In fact, those are some of the worst lyrics ever written. Maybe the song should have been banned for having crummy lyrics.
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I can't believe no one's mentioned that U2 have played this song, whole or in snippet, numerous times live too.

"Black Betty" is an old Leadbelly song--I think the black students quoted here probably know that, and that's why they're emphasizing the effect of an arena full of white students singing it. When Ram Jam released this song in 1977, the NAACP and CORE called for a boycott of it for similar reasons, although they were well aware of its origins too.

To me, Irvine's point makes the most sense. I'm sure all the white students protesting that they never even thought about the lyrics beyond the "bam-ba-lams" are telling the truth, but I don't think that really addresses the nature of the discomfort that black women might feel hearing the nudge-nudge-wink-wink overtones being giddily picked up on by an arenaful of white people--it was sexist enough coming from Leadbelly frankly, but there is such a long and ugly history of white racist stereotyping of black women as mad-for-it, oversexed molls (nudge nudge, wink wink) informing the listening on top of that.

It's not like they're calling for a total listening ban on the tune, just for it to not get official endorsement as a school "fight" song. I don't really see why that should be a big deal. There are a thousand and one other lunkheaded gladiator themes to chose from out there--why stick with one that has an established history of offending black women?
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Why not travel the country and find out who else is playing this offensive song and shut them down as well?

You've taken the "theoretical" and turned it into censorship.
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C'mon, you guys. If black people / Muslims / Haitians are offended by a song / cartoon / abject poverty, they're supposed to "get over it." If white middle-class Christians get offended by something that doesn't even affect them, it's time to crack out constitutional amendments! Post haste!

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