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Old 11-27-2004, 06:10 PM   #16
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i'm very proud of the ukrainian people for remaining peaceful during this whole ordeal. if it were america i hate to think of what would be going on
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:41 PM   #17
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go Ukraine! show the world -- *especially* those of us here in the US -- how to make sure every vote gets counted.
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You tried that already and you lost fair and square, aint democracy grand.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:51 PM   #19
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erm, talking about 2000. yes, 2004 is a different story, but had we been able to show a bit more gumption in our country after the 2000 fiasco, the world might be a very different place.
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A good turn of events.

Yes, America should watch this and be ashamed of their own complacency. We were too eager to "have it all resolved" and get a quick answer. We have a comfortable history with politics and our government, basically.

Eastern Europe, however has enjoyed what--60 years of sham elections? They know one when they see one. And they aren't going to give up their relatively new freedom. So they took to the streets--and peacefully, too! And everyone in the world noticed. I think that is just so awesome. Go, Ukraine!

We're just too damn comfortable here. We don't rock the boat enough.
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:38 AM   #21
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I agree, I'm glad the people in Ukraine raised hell when it became painfully obvious that they'd been ripped off. Demonstrations are great! I love 'em!
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:26 PM   #22
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I'm so glad to hear an eyewitness account. I was wondering if it was really the revolution Western reporters were describing.

Good luck! You guys have a good track record when it comes to political protest.

Keep us updated, please! We'll be watching! [/B][/QUOTE]


It's interesting to read your comments in the wake of a good article I read about how the Western media is covering the events in Ukraine. If u want to read it I've posted the link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...360811,00.html
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WOW. That is a good article.

I know our local press (who probably can't find Ukraine on a map) happened to have a Colorado reporter who was there and kept leaving panicked messages about "It's a revolution! A revolution! Violence will break out any moment...oh, wait, maybe not...no, wait, ahhh!" It was embarressing.

I'm slightly abashed at this painfully accurate assessment of the West throwing our support like this. It's probably because in retrospect, we failed Eastern Europe so miserably, so now we're a bit too enthused.

Yet on the other hand, I really don't trust Putin or the Russia-backed Yanukovych. That the same accusations were leveled in Russia's own election last spring seems to validate Yushchenko's supporters. Putin seems to favor retro style elections, as it were.
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