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Old 01-09-2002, 06:10 AM   #16
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I loved what Arthur C. Clarke said on the Space Odyssey DVD - if you haven't seen an unidentified flying object, you're not very observant.

Whether they're aliens, I don't know, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere. But no, I don't think they're here on this planet. Scratch that, I just thought of Dennis Rodman, Björk, Calista Flockhart, Jim Carrey...
Bjork is her own planet - we just orbit around her...
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Old 01-10-2002, 01:54 PM   #17
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Hmmmm - one of the most interesting topics there is. I think about often, and i've seen a few TV shows about it, read the Bermuda triangle book by Charles Berlitz (really should read it if you're into this stuff)...

I don't know. So far, i haven't see any or had any contact and i never had an encounter.

I imagine lots of those "sightings" are hoaxes, people confusing light&shadow play for UFOs etc...but there's really interesting things like the famous "Philadelphia experiment" or the Bermuda triangle mystery.

I stick to the "i'll believe it when i see it" theory when it comes to UFOs, and maybe those things just are out there and we're not supposed to know what it really is.

As for life on other planets...i believe it exists. But if it was really as advanced as it's usually portrayed, surely it would try to locate other forms of life like we are trying?
I think it may be closer to some bacteria. Plus it may be so far away we may never find it.

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Old 01-10-2002, 04:50 PM   #18
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Issac Asimov wrote a fantastic book which I don't have here at my apt. but that I've read that essentially proved three points:

1. Life DOES exist, or has existed at some point in the universe. Simple statistics can prove this.

2. Intelligent life probably does exist, possible far more advanced than us.

3. The probability that 1. this life form has evolved and exists at the same time as us 2. has developed space travel that allows them to deal with the problem of SOL (speed of light) and 3. they've bothered to come and visit us is very unlikely, but entirely possible.

The idea that there has been literally thousands of "visitations" and yet we haven't actually come face to face with extraterrestrials is a farce. Chances are that aliens have not visited us, and if they did, they wouldn't announce their visit to Elmer Fudd on the back roads of buttfuck nowwhere and then brainwash him and leave him sitting in his car....

That being said, I once saw something in the sky that I can't explain. It wasn't a plane, it didn't move like a plane. I don't know what it was, but it probably was my eyes playing tricks on me.

Do I believe there is life out there? Yes. Do I hope that they visit us? Yes. But have they? Probably not

Oh, and Whammy, my brother is an archaeologist, and I can assure you, it is entirely possible for the pyramids to be built. They used thousands and thousands of slaves to haul those stones. When you have free labor numbering in the thousands, you can do a lot.

Look at medieval cathedrals. Probably more complicated, and yet built the same way with similar tools and no one doubts who built them....they don't call it the "dark ages" for nothing. They weren't sophisticated at all, probably less sophisticated than the ancient egyptians. Everyone thinks that the egyptians were from another planet because they're got wierd writing and lots of strange gods and mummify their dead. The truth is, a lot of cultures did the same thing. Look at the Aztecs...and yes, I'm quite aware that some people think they were aliens too.

Why is it so hard for people to grasp the idea that great things can be accomplished with very little. Our society has gotten to comfortable with relying on technology. It's like the sad bastards (and whammy, I'm not calling you a sad bastard) who go out into the woods and try and climb a mountain or something and don't have the right equipment and aren't experianced and get lost or decide that they "um, actually don't really like the cold" and use their fucking cell phones to call for help. They can fuck right off and get eaten by a bear for all I care. People need to stop relying on 2-ply and heat and running water all the time because the fact is in a lot of countries they just don't have anything and are still living as they have lived for a thousand years and are doing just fine.

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In regards to pyramids and cathedrals, I think it is a result of the ebb and flow of education and knowledge. The rise and fall of nations. The most recent example would be the fall of the Roman Empire, which led into about 1000 years of educational lapse, before Europe could pick up and go beyond the Romans. The same likely happened several times before, but happened so long ago that the collective memory is lost.

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no, don't believe in them

there are many things we can't understand/don't know about

I don't mind not understanding everything that goes on in this world
I do not need the idea of alien life to make these things seem more sensible to me

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As for life on other planets...i believe it exists. But if it was really as advanced as it's usually portrayed, surely it would try to locate other forms of life like we are trying?
Perhaps they have already found us and are observing us. But imagine that they are humans and we are ants - they might not even be interested in talking to us because they are so much more advanced than we are.
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Old 01-11-2002, 03:50 AM   #22
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no, don't believe in them

there are many things we can't understand/don't know about

I don't mind not understanding everything that goes on in this world
I do not need the idea of alien life to make these things seem more sensible to me

Well I don't think it's a matter of believing or not believing. Alien life or, closer to home, UFOs, will continue to exist (or not exist) regardless of my thoughts on the matter.

As for all the other theories, eg the Egpytian Pyramids idea, I think that's just a load of crock. But the existence of intelligent alien life: more than possible. And given enough time and progress, probably easier to prove than God. (I do believe in God, btw).

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but..........I came out of the back end of a UFO!
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but..........I came out of the back end of a UFO!
why does that not surprise me
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Hmmmm - one of the most interesting topics there is. I think about often, and i've seen a few TV shows about it, read the Bermuda triangle book by Charles Berlitz (really should read it if you're into this stuff)...

I don't know. So far, i haven't see any or had any contact and i never had an encounter.

I imagine lots of those "sightings" are hoaxes, people confusing light&shadow play for UFOs etc...but there's really interesting things like the famous "Philadelphia experiment" or the Bermuda triangle mystery.

I stick to the "i'll believe it when i see it" theory when it comes to UFOs, and maybe those things just are out there and we're not supposed to know what it really is.

As for life on other planets...i believe it exists. But if it was really as advanced as it's usually portrayed, surely it would try to locate other forms of life like we are trying?
I think it may be closer to some bacteria. Plus it may be so far away we may never find it.

I've read that book and many more about the Bermuda Triangle.
I like all the different explanation skeptics’ give as to where the submerged buildings, walls, and roads come from. And why there is a figure of stones in a circle almost identical to stonehenge.






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