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Old 03-11-2003, 04:33 PM   #16
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Even with all the bullshit about a possibility of us attacking IRAQ, I am still proud of my citizenship. Proof is that diplomat that resigned.

I'm scared about the direction our country is heading , but I'm more scared of the complacency that I see in people every day.


Bravo

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Even with all the bullshit about a possibility of us attacking IRAQ, I am still proud of my citizenship. Proof is that diplomat that resigned.

I'm scared about the direction our country is heading , but I'm more scared of the complacency that I see in people every day.
I agree. Complacency is the most dangerous thing on the planet.
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I'm against the war too but I don't plan on "resigning" my citizenship. I'm going to use it to express my belief that my government is making a huge mistake. Hey, I have a vote and 2004 is going to happen whether those politicians like it or not. No matter who wins the election, I'll have used the ballot box and my right to peaceful protest to express my viiews. This is important to me. Rather than giving up your vote or whatever, use it! That's why the Founding Fathers, the suffragettes, and other people --themselves protesters against a status quo--gave me a vote.
Very good, verte76. That is the right thing to do. Thatīs what citizenship is all about. Exercising your citizenship and making better choices is always worth.
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I don't really have any reason to keep mine since I never plan on coming back and I'll be marrying a British citizen and be elligible for citizenship in three years.
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On a personal note: Keep it anyway, meegannie. It canīt really hurt.

Bonoīs American Wife:

"Running away or being ashamed of your country is no way to solve its problems."

I do think a diplomat carefully thinks of his actions, especially considering his job.

U2ME3: "the right to speak freely against his or her country's leadership decisions without worrying about the ramifications that might occur"

Never let the current goverment take this right from you. Without having proof or doing a research on it, I think many Americans are worried about that issue excatly. The ramifications that might occur for the diplomat... if we look at his future job, we will see.
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"Running away or being ashamed of your country is no way to solve its problems."

I do think a diplomat carefully thinks of his actions, especially considering his job.

I know hiphop...I was mainly referring to the people who say they want to resign their citizenship or are ashamed to be American right now. We have our problems in the US but giving up doesn't help. I think verte summed it up very well.
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Yeah, I'm with oktobergirl--I don't plan on heading for the border...yet.
That would be foolish until all our snow up here melts. See ya in the summer!
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I know hiphop...I was mainly referring to the people who say they want to resign their citizenship or are ashamed to be American right now. We have our problems in the US but giving up doesn't help. I think verte summed it up very well.
Yeah I can understand.

If I was American I wouldnīt be ashamed to be American, but I would be ashamed of the current administration. On the other hand I would probably say "Hey, the people voted for it - if my fellowmen are that stupid, you canīt help them, can you"... its just about the same I think of my country with its current government, but I am not ashamed to be from here.

I guess I will keep my identity though, because I do think once I relocate I can have a double ID too, and my country is a secure "first world" nation, so why give it up.
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sometimes i feel like acquiring my US citizenship so i can vote.
but even that doesnt work right...
become irish ...then you can wait in a "lottery" and receive a Green Card to work for a living and pay Uncle Sam his allotment of taxes...it's a hard route, but if you have a lawyer or know of a decent irish newspaper, you can find a good strategy and wait it out in one of our many fine pubs dotting the San Francisco bay, or possibly in Boston, i don't know if the same system exists in Massachusettes (that is hard to spell!) did i spell it right?? i don't know, California has such an easier spelling...and Nevada, too! can't wait to see the sign for NEVADA on about March 16th....yipee!!!! gonna make some chips and cash, (*thinks positively, i will win, i will win *clasps hands in prayer ) go big snake eyes, or is it 21, i'm little confused on the lingo...

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From my perspetive it's verry strange to be pride or ashamed of things you are not responsible for.
Most of us did nothing to get our citizenship - so why being ashamed/proud of?

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some of us didn't grow up in the country of our "citizenship" and therefore have a somewhat different take on the idea of "running away."

that said, I will continue to participate and to vote when possible and to make my voice heard. However, I would always reserve the right to opt out if the situation became one I could not in any way shape or form affirm or identify with. But then again, I am not a "good American" or so I have been told.
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Eh...I would never give up my U.S. citizenship. I couldn't do it, nor would I want to. I've contemplated becoming a dual citizen with Canada or the UK, because I'm highly interested in working / living in both, but I would never renounce my U.S. citizenship. Ever.

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How do you get dual citizenship? Everything I've looked at says you have to be offered dual citizenship; if you apply for citizenship in the UK, you lose your US citizenship.
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wink yes anitram - canada has too much snow for a mass migration now

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On the other hand I would probably say "Hey, the people voted for it - if my fellowmen are that stupid, you canīt help them, can you"... its just about the same I think of my country with its current government, but I am not ashamed to be from here.
the electoral college voted him in. without that we'd have *collective gasp* gore *collective shudder*


and melon: once again, very well said. i couldn't even imagine giving it up willingly, i'm an american citizen wherever i am, and am content to be just that. if people started throwing out their citizenship every time our country had a crises there wouldn't be too many left.
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i agree with lillyshannon and melon. completely.
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