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Old 05-01-2005, 10:22 PM   #31
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And may I add all it said was this:

George Bush =

What kind of thread is that? It had no substance.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:46 AM   #32
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In relation to point 1, I would see that as a "chicken-and-egg" type argument, i.e. non Americans are perhaps reluctant to post if they see the majority of posters are Americans.

In relation to point 2, I'll keep my thoughts to myself on that one.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:52 AM   #33
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Don't even bring Pax into it, in my view she is the most pro-American biased mod ever.

F**k it, American lump Muslims as terrorists all the time, and also they lump Europeans as Socialists are whatever.

I have seen this on here, and the mods never object to it, so spare me the sanctimonious whinging about cry-baby Americans.
Hi. Do you even read anything I post? Did you catch my post about how much I hate generalizations, of all kinds? Have I not specifically warned post-ers in here about the dangers of labeling Islam as a "terrorist religion" since the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, decent people?

You don't know me, financeguy. You've been posting here for less than six months. I've been a mod here for damn near three years, and if I was that terrible, I'd have been relieved of my duties.

My posts here, as a member and as a mod, speak for themselves. If you were to actually read what I've posted over the years, you'd see that I've expressed admiration and respect for many, many countries, governments, leaders, and religions. You'd see that I do not agree with everything my country says or does. You'd see that, yes, I'm proud to be American, but that does not equal unqualified U.S.A. worship. You'd see that I've done my utmost to protect both the rights and the sensitivities of everyone in FYM.

In other words, you'd see that you're dead wrong.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:55 AM   #35
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Good in the sense that:

- Americans can be great people to socialise with and are very fun loving
- Gave us REM, Live and the Foo Fighters
- Produce some great television
- There exists a strong and real desire amongst many Americans to want a peaceful world

Evil:

- Can be very arrogant.

- A lot of Americans are brainwashed into thinking that any religion besides those that take a Christian influence are inferior and "wrong."

- People who believe that "God" is the be all and end all, and believe that this "idea" actually influences the way of the world. This is outdated and too fanciful.

- Keep talking about Jesus. He is a DEAD MAN, get over it and relaise it's up to you to make a difference.

- Under the false impression that Capitalism is a perfect ideological system, when the reality is that it is extremely flawed and in urgent need of reform.

- Killed Socialism

- A Maniac for a president.

- KKK

- Mormons
What the heck, why are Mormons on your list? Do you even know a thing about them? And what makes them evil??????
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Seriously dude, get over yourself. The reality is, posts remotely critical of the USA are routinely censored here.
I don't wish to enquire as to your reading abilities, but my post was aimed at intedomine's less than cordial comment aimed at mormons. I dont know if you're aware of this, but there are quite a few Mormons who frequent this site and take part in this forum, and, even if they didn't, it really isn't polite to mock someone's religious beliefs, and thats all there is to it.

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jack mormons too


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Culturally, the USA has been very influential, be it for the good or for the bad. The world culture, at this particular point in history, is becoming a very Americanized culture. Of course, each country has its own unique culture, but more and more you see points of Americanization within those cultures. For example, in most of the biggest cities in the world, you can find multiple McDonald's restaurants. No matter where you go in the world, if someone is using a computer, chances are it's either running Microsoft software or Apple software on it. People all over the world watch our sports leagues - probably NBA and MLB more than NFL or NHL. Of course, that works the other way around as I'm sure there are a lot of people in the USA that watch international futbol(soccer) on a regular basis. Our television shows get played all over the world in other languages - Simpsons, Friends, Seinfeld, ER, whatever. But that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Whether all this is good or bad is up to individual opinion. Personally, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about it.

Politicaly, we've done some good and we've done some bad, basically what's already been said.
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Seriously dude, get over yourself. The reality is, posts remotely critical of the USA are routinely censored here.

Any poster critical of anything non-USA can just about get away with anything.

Don't even bring Pax into it, in my view she is the most pro-American biased mod ever.

F**k it, American lump Muslims as terrorists all the time, and also they lump Europeans as Socialists are whatever.

I have seen this on here, and the mods never object to it, so spare me the sanctimonious whinging about cry-baby Americans.
umm...sorry, but you're the only one "lumping people." As an American, I can say that the vast vast majority of people are very accepting of other religions. Yes, even Christians! When it comes to religious hatred in the world, we're hardly at the top of the list. I'm friends with Muslim people and they've never had any rude comments towards them. I know after 9/11 there were a few unfortunate incidents of bigotry which were completely uncalled for, as Muslim Americans are as American as anyone else, but I don't want you to think we've got them in internment camps or anything. And there are plenty of less than pretty reasons for Bush's little "liberation" war in Iraq, but I don't think religion was one of them. After all, we seem to be on great terms with ol' Saudi Arabia. ()

As far as lumping Europeans as socialists, I've only met a few people who've actually made that generalisation. I have met people (and agree with them) who like our system here better than the government in France or Germany, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want a 20% sales tax...

meanwhile, you've made 3 generalizations about Americans: that we think all Muslims are terrorists, that we think all Europeans are socialists, and that we are "cry-babies." this doesn't do much for my opinion of you, but I'm not holding it against the Irish people in general (I've never met the other 3 million)!
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Good
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All the universities - stanford, harvard, MIT etc

musicwise - REM, Flaming lips, BRMC etc

Politically - as long as it doesnt mess with my country, I am not concerned.

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About ending terrorism, they have got it all wrong
..not all but most of it anyway.

Sometimes arrogant

On airport - they should have some sense on whom to stripsearch and whom not to... So lack of common sense by airport authorities


I am still maintaing a NOT GOOD - NOT BAD status on Bush !!
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On airport - they should have some sense on whom to stripsearch and whom not to... So lack of common sense by airport authorities

I'm your typical American (desperate) housewife....I get searched all the time at the airport.....what do they find on me??? Barbie shit and gameboys that I'm carrying for the kids.....
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Old 05-07-2005, 07:06 AM   #44
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Seriously dude, get over yourself. The reality is, posts remotely critical of the USA are routinely censored here.


I have never known Ant to be full of himself. This is one of the funniest statements ever written in here. Posts critical of the US are routinely censored?


[Q]Any poster critical of anything non-USA can just about get away with anything. [/Q]

You serious?

[Q]Don't even bring Pax into it, in my view she is the most pro-American biased mod ever.[/Q]

Put your glasses on. If Pax were biased I would have been banned years ago.


[Q]F**k it, American lump Muslims as terrorists all the time, and also they lump Europeans as Socialists are whatever. [/Q]

That most certainly is not allowed in here. Speaking of broad generalizations.......

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I have seen this on here, and the mods never object to it, so spare me the sanctimonious whinging about cry-baby Americans.
And just because you do not see the continuous bought of PM's that I get from the Mod team correcting my behavior and you do not see it it did not happen?
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Evil:

- Mormons
Well, I'm very critical of Mormons on how homophobic they are to the point of ostracizing and excommunicating homosexuals "who don't change," so I can't defend them too much. But to single them out as "evil," while excluding most of Christianity in this nation would be doing them a disservice.

I dunno...thankfully, there are some good people outside of rigid and evil institutions. That's all.

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