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Old 09-19-2007, 10:16 AM   #91
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oh, Headache, please go read some history or do some googling, .....there are democrats AND republicans {NOT neo-cons} who have {and are} stood up for various crucial things through the decades.
yes... there are still plenty of democrats and republicans who are standing up for various crucial things when it's politicaly convienient for them to do so.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:48 AM   #92
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Ok, let's have a Devil's Advocate moment here:

Didn't this dude ever watch an episode of Cops? If he just went along peacefully, they wouldn't have tasered him. But, there he was resisting, so they pretty much decided the only way to control him was to taser his ass.
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i think this guy is probably a pain in the ass.

i think campus police knew he was a pain in the ass.

i think he was being a pain in the ass at the speech.

and i'm sickened and frightened at what happened to him, to actually yell, "don't taser me, bro!" when you have 5-6 police officers sitting on top of you, and then to have him tasered, while people stand around and video the whole thing (not that they should have or could have intervened) is completely inexcusable. it was the most disturbing thing i saw yesterday, and yesterday as i was walking down 16th street i saw an accident where a car flipped over and a woman was trapped inside and they had to cut off the door with the Jaws of Life and they pulled her out and she was covered in blood and they backboarded her and put her in an ambulance.

the officer(s) who tasered this student should be fired, and prosecuted.
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i think this guy is probably a pain in the ass.

i think campus police knew he was a pain in the ass.

i think he was being a pain in the ass at the speech.

and i'm sickened and frightened at what happened to him, to actually yell, "don't taser me, bro!" when you have 5-6 police officers sitting on top of you, and then to have him tasered, while people stand around and video the whole thing (not that they should have or could have intervened) is completely inexcusable.

the officer(s) who tasered this student should be fired, and prosecuted.
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BY ALICE WALLACE
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GAINESVILLE - Police have released the incident report detailing the Tasering of a University of Florida student during a campus forum with Sen. John Kerry Monday, and the officer who actually Tasered Andrew Meyer wrote in the report that Meyer later told police, "You didn't do anything wrong."

In the 12-page report, which gives accounts of the incident from the perspective of eight different officers who were present Monday afternoon, Officer Nicole Mallo writes that Meyer would only resist officers when cameras were present.

"As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again," Mallo wrote.

Mallo was one of two officers who actually rode in the vehicle as Meyer was escorted to the Alachua County jail, and she said said he told them during the ride: "I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job," according to Mallo's account.

Mallo also wrote in her report that he asked, at one point, if cameras would be present at the jail.

The report details the events leading up to Meyer's arrest, saying that Meyer was in line to ask a question of Sen. Kerry when it was decided that no more questions would be allowed.

Meyer continued down the aisle toward Sen. Kerry angrily, according to police, saying he wanted the senator to answer his question because he had been waiting for two hours.

Though Sen. Kerry directed that Meyer be allowed to ask his question, police reported that Meyer did not ask any specific question and instead "badgered" the senator, and at one point said something about President Clinton being impeached over a sexual act.

At that point, police reported that ACCENT Director Max Tyroler turned off Meyer's microphone and asked police to escort him out of the auditorium, saying, "He had said enough," according to Officer Mallo's report.

Officers then proceeded to attempt to remove Meyer from the room, but when he resisted, they placed him on the ground and tried to handcuff him. The six officers who actually took part in holding Meyer down while he was being handcuffed reported that they were only able to get a handcuff on his right hand because he was squirming so much.

The supervising officer, Sgt. Eddie King, attempted to Taser Meyer on his chest, but he reported that his Taser would not deploy. He then instructed Mallo to Taser Meyer, and she Tasered him on his shoulder, according to one of the officer's report.

The officers were then able to fully handcuff Meyer and escort him from the building. Each of the six officers reported that Meyer yelled things like, "They're going to kill me," and, "They are giving me to the government," while he was being taken from the room.
LMAO at the attention whoring to the extreme from this guy. Obviously he watched episodes of COPS.

I give the benefit of the doubt to the above report and wouldn't be surprised if it's true.
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i think this guy is probably a pain in the ass.

i think campus police knew he was a pain in the ass.

i think he was being a pain in the ass at the speech.

and i'm sickened and frightened at what happened to him, to actually yell, "don't taser me, bro!" when you have 5-6 police officers sitting on top of you, and then to have him tasered, while people stand around and video the whole thing (not that they should have or could have intervened) is completely inexcusable. it was the most disturbing thing i saw yesterday, and yesterday as i was walking down 16th street i saw an accident where a car flipped over and a woman was trapped inside and they had to cut off the door with the Jaws of Life and they pulled her out and she was covered in blood and they backboarded her and put her in an ambulance.

the officer(s) who tasered this student should be fired, and prosecuted.
I think the cops did their job, but since it was a woman police officer involved, mebbe it's proof that females shouldn't be on the field as cops?
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I think the cops did their job, but since it was a woman police officer involved, mebbe it's proof that females shouldn't be on the field as cops?
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I'm pretty sure FuManchu is trying to get everyone's goat in here. That, or he's delusional.

I watched the video 3 times now, and it gets more and more unnerving. I cannot come close to accurately describing how much this episode bothers me.

The guy did not one thing to warrant this sort of treatment. So frustrating to me. So fucking frustrating.
I'm not delusional. Believe it or not, I'm not surprised at all at the use of a taser on this douchebag. Police have been using a taser as a means to subdue people for a while now. If you are being "belligerent" and if you are not following the officers' directions AND "resisting" arrest (which was what was happening, considering they were trying to put the cuffs on him) don't be surprised if you get your ass tazed. Douchebag wasn't some little old lady, he was a grown adult who was giving a number of those people in uniform trouble AND he attempted to flee at the door. If you came off as a fruitcake and try to run off while you have a former Presidential candidate/ Senator in the same room, don't expect the officers to be all hunky dory. It's just common sense, IMO. People in the audience or you all at home may look at this video, and make the judgement that he is just a douche fruitcake, however, the police erred on the side of caution b/c they don't truly know who "sane" this guy truly is and they are the once having "the adrenaline rush" of having to apprehend a person.... and they gave him a shock that he probably enjoyed because he is douchey attention whore.

How bout this social experiment. Why don't you all speed, in your cars, and try to get pulled over by the cops. Once the cop pulls you over, and is walking towards your car to ask for your license and registration, just open your door and walk out to greet him/ her and see what the reaction from the cop might be, cuz I'll tell you, it won't be pleasant. And don't be surprised if he/ she pulls a gun or tazer and tells you to get on the ground or hands up. The point of this example- believe it or not, there is a certain "protocol" when dealing with police. You don't come out of your car no matter how harmless you might think it is (even making sudden movements while in the car is frowned upon). If you're resisting arrest and causing a disturbance and then you are told that you are gonna get tazed, several times, then don't be surprised that you do get tazed.
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Why the eye rolling? She was probably on her period too
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FFM: the more you say "douchebag" the better your argument becomes.
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How bout this social experiment. Why don't you all speed, in your cars, and try to get pulled over by the cops. Once the cop pulls you over, and is walking towards your car to ask for your license and registration, just open your door and walk out to greet him/ her and see what the reaction from the cop might be, cuz I'll tell you, it won't be pleasant. And don't be surprised if he/ she pulls a gun or tazer and tells you to get on the ground or hands up. The point of this example- believe it or not, there is a certain "protocol" when dealing with police. You don't come out of your car no matter how harmless you might think it is (even making sudden movements while in the car is frowned upon). If you're resisting arrest and causing a disturbance and then you are told that you are gonna get tazed, several times, then don't be surprised that you do get tazed.


yes, because a Q&A session at a political forum at a university is entirely comparable to a traffic stop late at night.

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How bout this social experiment. Why don't you all speed, in your cars, and try to get pulled over by the cops. Once the cop pulls you over, and is walking towards your car to ask for your license and registration, just open your door and walk out to greet him/ her and see what the reaction from the cop might be, cuz I'll tell you, it won't be pleasant. And don't be surprised if he/ she pulls a gun or tazer and tells you to get on the ground or hands up. The point of this example- believe it or not, there is a certain "protocol" when dealing with police. You don't come out of your car no matter how harmless you might think it is (even making sudden movements while in the car is frowned upon). If you're resisting arrest and causing a disturbance and then you are told that you are gonna get tazed, several times, then don't be surprised that you do get tazed.
Shit analogy...
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I think the cops did their job, but since it was a woman police officer involved, mebbe it's proof that females shouldn't be on the field as cops?
Your trolling has gotten pretty lazy and weak over the years.
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yes, because a Q&A session at a political forum at a university is entirely comparable to a traffic stop late at night.

well done.

I think you're losing sight of the point. There is an "ettiquete" when dealing/ confronting with police, especially when they are ordering you to do something. or if you're in a position to be arrested. Did people not expect him to be restrained and something like a taser would not come out if he continued to resist?
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There is an "ettiquete" when dealing/ confronting with police, especially when they are ordering you to do something. or if you're in a position to be arrested.
There is also ettiquete by cops when dealing with civilians, like having to tell you why you are being put in cuffs...
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