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Old 02-02-2017, 07:15 PM   #151
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Trying to build a money pit is something I should applaud?
No just pointing out he is keeping his promises. Most politicians don't. Doesn't make them all right but he is keeping them
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The left has to stop being petulant little children and realize we are in this together....
Oh here we go with the kumbaya.

NO.

WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are. Not the grabbed pussies (you can do anything you want to them if you're famous), not the Mexicans (drug dealers, criminals, rapists and bad hombres), not the disabled (with their flailing arms), not the overweight women (get on a treadmill and be publicly humiliated), not the Jews (apparently he thinks Shylock is real as he wants only men wearing yarmulkes counting his money), the Muslims (they want to kill us all), not the refugees (they also want to kill us), etc.

So it's really rich coming from a person in a position of privilege to tell the rest of us who are wearing bulls-eyes to COME TOGETHER instead of telling that freak show that you voted in to be a uniter and a president to all instead of the vulgarian that he is.

Sorry, we won't forget what you voted for and what you are tacitly approving.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:18 PM   #153
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No just pointing out he is keeping his promises. Most politicians don't. Doesn't make them all right but he is keeping them
So I'm to applaud him for keeping a promise that could financial bankrupt the country. Good to know.

Oh I'm also supposed to applaud him for not treating the LGBT community like second-class citizens, too. Awesome.

I told the rest of you what was going to come of believing that EO leak. Now Trump's a damn hero. SMH.
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist? Funny I seem to be in the minority here but I don't see skin color. We are all good people discussing a subject.....You seem to be the one bringing race into it.

Since we are on a music board I cant help but think of another song from a band I love and the lyrics go quite well here.

I am no better and neither are you
We are the same whatever we do
You love me you hate me you know me and then
You can't figure out the bag I'm in
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:20 PM   #155
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Oh my God.


Oh...wait....are you serious?
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist? Funny I seem to be in the minority here but I don't see skin color. We are all good people discussing a subject.....You seem to be the one bringing race into it.
Shocking that a white man doesn't see colour. Also shocking that you can't put yourself in the shoes of a minority.

And for heaven's sake if you're going to throw baseless accusations at me, at least get it right. Those were the 3rd and 4th sentences of my post.
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Ah, he edited. Now it's even better. "I don't see color". .

Now I'm guessing bloodysunday is one of those people that tells POC, women, LGBT peoples, etc how they should feel about things too, huh? Cause he doesn't see color .
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Ashley, thanks for the comment on the Prayer Breakfast. I have to admit I've never paid attention to this event so I am not familiar with it, though I am able to gather through common sense that his speech was ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that he has a grieving family of a Navy SEAL - wouldn't it be appropriate to begin by offering prayer for this man and his family and friends instead of boasting about his ratings vs. Arnold's? It baffles the mind. Worse yet are the allegedly religious people who live in a state of delusion that this man has any spirituality within him.

I still don't know why this event exists in the sense that it strikes me as not particularly inclusive but rather something for Christians, which I guess makes sense historically but these days? Or is it actually an interfaith sort of event?
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I love it when new conservative posters become active on FYM, it feels like such a major FYM event until you realise their beliefs are essentially identical to other FYM conservatives before them.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:36 PM   #160
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Shocking that a white man doesn't see colour. Also shocking that you can't put yourself in the shoes of a minority.

And for heaven's sake if you're going to throw baseless accusations at me, at least get it right. Those were the 3rd and 4th sentences of my post.
Oh dear so its not racism if someone of another color says it to a white person?
To me you are the one coming across as racist....Oh I'm white I guess I should check my privilege next?

And actually Bono I respect everyone's opinions but I won't keep mine to myself because one side doesn't like it. That is what a debate is......It's two sided.

Oh and a little about myself.
I come from a family of Polish & Irish immigrants. Both grandparents fought in WW2. My grandfather on my mothers side spent time in both India & Africa as a teacher. My grandmother was in the diplomat core so on my moms side they are more a mixture of conservative & liberal. My dad was born here and an Army vet. He was an old school Dem who loved Harry Truman. I am bringing these points up so you know a little about the person you are judging.

Yes if you have to bring race into it I am a white boy and I'm not ashamed of it...Why should I be? Does that make me less of a person or do my views mean less because I'm not of a different color?

I believe everyone has a right to be heard. Its what makes this country what it needs to be. We wouldn't be the melting pot we are today if we didn't. Every culture brings something to the table but it's very close minded to think one persons voice matters more over another.
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Ashley, thanks for the comment on the Prayer Breakfast. I have to admit I've never paid attention to this event so I am not familiar with it, though I am able to gather through common sense that his speech was ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that he has a grieving family of a Navy SEAL - wouldn't it be appropriate to begin by offering prayer for this man and his family and friends instead of boasting about his ratings vs. Arnold's? It baffles the mind. Worse yet are the allegedly religious people who live in a state of delusion that this man has any spirituality within him.

I still don't know why this event exists in the sense that it strikes me as not particularly inclusive but rather something for Christians, which I guess makes sense historically but these days? Or is it actually an interfaith sort of event?
Yeah, I get what you're saying, it's in effect a Christian event, but it's meant to be something along those lines, as well, or at least it has been lately.

Per Wiki, for some insight into the way people feel about it:

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Rev. Jim Wallis, founder and president of the Christian social change group Sojourners and a regular attendee of the National Prayer Breakfast, said of the event "it's sort of a time to — where people want to acknowledge the importance of prayer and faith. And that can be kind of a civil religion, civic faith kind of common denominator thing. Or it can be much too sectarian where some people feel left out of it. I remember my favorite ones are when Bono spoke at the prayer breakfast and talked about every faith tradition calls us to stand with those who are left out, left behind. I remember Senator Mark Hatfield spoke years ago when I was in seminary and he called the war in Vietnam a national sin and shame in front of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger. I saw their faces and they weren't happy with that. So when it can raise up issues that we ought to be accountable to, whether we are religious or not, I think that's when it's probably at its best."[16]


In 2010, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington asked President Barack Obama and Congressional leaders to refrain from attending the National Prayer Breakfast. Executive Director Melanie Sloan criticized the organizing group, The Fellowship, for being what she described as intolerant and secretive.[17]
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Who said I was a conservative Vlad?
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I love it when new conservative posters become active on FYM, it feels like such a major FYM event until you realise their beliefs are essentially identical to other FYM conservatives before them.
I know, I felt myself deflating as the day has gone on. I was so looking forward to someone who had something new to offer the discussion. Ohhhh well.
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Who said I was a conservative Vlad?
The jokes keep on coming.
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No just pointing out he is keeping his promises. Most politicians don't. Doesn't make them all right but he is keeping them
Raising the bar in one aspect so he can get away with lowering the bar in all others.

That's our dealmaker prez in action.
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