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Old 01-04-2017, 05:44 AM   #1
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Trump General Discussion IV: Unpresidented! Very sad!

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Just going to leave this here to start things off...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-most...181959428.html

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According to a Gallup poll released Monday, Americans have significantly less faith in Trump than they had in his predecessors. Only 44% said they are confident Trump will avoid major scandals in his Administration, 46% said they are confident in Trump’s ability to handle an international crisis, and 47% said they trust him to use military force wisely. When the same questions were asked at the start of Barack Obama’s, George W. Bush’s and Bill Clinton’s terms, roughly three-quarters of Americans said they had confidence in the newly elected President in these areas.

When compared with Gallup’s averages of confidence polling in his predecessors, Trump comes up short: he has a 32-point confidence deficit in his ability to avoid scandals in his Administration, a 29-point deficit in his ability to use military force well and a 28-point deficit in his ability to manage the Executive Branch. Most Americans (60%) believe Trump will be able to get things done with Congress, but even there he comes up far behind his predecessors — the average number of Americans with confidence in Obama, Bush and Clinton to work with Congress was 82%.
So, yeah. Considering Hillary won the popular vote by a decent amount, though, this news shouldn't be all that surprising.
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The President Elect is quoting Assange and discussing intelligence briefings on his Twitter account.

#whattheeverlivingfuck


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Siding with Assange instead of his own intelligence agencies?! If you worked for the CIA risking your life etc why would you continue to serve a president who didn't believe in you? Also, his constantly denying Russia had anything to do with the hacks makes him look as guilty as hell! What an absolute farce, I think he lacks any sort of intelligence.
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I was wrong on freedom of info

It was the fairness doctrine.

Required opposing sides to be heard.


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Completely agree with you on 'fairness doctrine.'
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They call this whitesplaining.
Haha. In a roundabout way you proved my point precisely. The left sets up buzzword snares and PC guilt traps to prevent an actual conversation when you approach it as a privileged identity.
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Can we get a reasonable title for this thread like we have had in the past?

Trump General Discussion 4, something like that?


and a reminder like the last thread, is always a good idea

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-No personal attacks
-Report offensive posts (I've been busy helping family move the last few days - an email notification when the sexism and racism showed its face again would've been nice)
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Can we get a reasonable title for this thread like we have had in the past?



Trump General Discussion 4, something like that?





and a reminder like the last thread, is always a good idea

Just quoting the man that will make America Great Again


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Haha. In a roundabout way you proved my point precisely. The left sets up buzzword snares and PC guilt traps to prevent an actual conversation when you approach it as a privileged identity.

In a way I actually agree with you. I don't like the 'splanin' expressions. He has a point, but the point would have been more impactful if explained and spelled out. But on the other hand your avoidance of this issue has people hesitant about wasting their time.


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"Whitesplaining" generally means that conversations about race should be centered around, and be most sensitive to the feelings of, white people and their concerns about being called racists rather than the lives in experience of being a racial minority.

Your post wasn't necessarily "wrong," but it was exactly the problem -- white people dont want to be made to feel uncomfortable about issues of race.
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But on the other hand your avoidance of this issue has people hesitant about wasting their time.
I'm assuming you will continue to call my opinion and analysis . . . Avoidance . . . until it properly aligns with your opinion and analysis.


Basically we disagree on the level and prevalence of racism, xenophobia, sexism etc... of the Trump movement.

Oregoropa = Trump is a modern day Archie Bunker, conjured into popularity by an overreach of left wing policies and Politically correct culture

BVS = Trump's movement is fueled by the racist tendencies of his followers which increase and spread when he speaks leading to a scary reversal of social progress
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Can we get a reasonable title for this thread like we have had in the past?
Seems appropriate for the forum.
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"Whitesplaining" generally means that conversations about race should be centered around, and be most sensitive to the feelings of, white people and their concerns about being called racists rather than the lives in experience of being a racial minority.

Your post wasn't necessarily "wrong," but it was exactly the problem -- white people dont want to be made to feel uncomfortable about issues of race.
I'm guessing we should feel completely comfortable about discussing racial issues. There is a comfort for a white person if you stick to the social justice script. If you have a dissenting viewpoint or an out-of-the-box idea you become vulnerable to verbal attack. Colleges and Universities have abandoned traditional liberal values of free speech and open debate. I've been called a fuck, asshole, cunt in FYM just for having a different opinion.

I had to approach last night's 'splaining with a jurist's mindset. Probably because I was defending the viewpoint that racism can be grossly overstated in today's climate.

A climate that made it conducive for Trump to win.
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