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Old 12-05-2016, 08:40 PM   #106
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A Texas elector with integrity and conviction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/op...smtyp=cur&_r=0

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DALLAS — I am a Republican presidential elector, one of the 538 people asked to choose officially the president of the United States. Since the election, people have asked me to change my vote based on policy disagreements with Donald J. Trump. In some cases, they cite the popular vote difference. I do not think president-elects should be disqualified for policy disagreements. I do not think they should be disqualified because they won the Electoral College instead of the popular vote. However, now I am asked to cast a vote on Dec. 19 for someone who shows daily he is not qualified for the office.

Fifteen years ago, as a firefighter, I was part of the response to the Sept. 11 attacks against our nation. That attack and this year’s election may seem unrelated, but for me the relationship becomes clearer every day.

George W. Bush is an imperfect man, but he led us through the tragic days following the attacks. His leadership showed that America was a great nation. That was also the last time I remember the nation united. I watch Mr. Trump fail to unite America and drive a wedge between us.

Mr. Trump goes out of his way to attack the cast of “Saturday Night Live” for bias. He tweets day and night, but waited two days to offer sympathy to the Ohio State community after an attack there. He does not encourage civil discourse, but chooses to stoke fear and create outrage.

This is unacceptable. For me, America is that shining city on a hill that Ronald Reagan envisioned. It has problems. It has challenges. These can be met and overcome just as our nation overcame Sept. 11.

The United States was set up as a republic. Alexander Hamilton provided a blueprint for states’ votes. Federalist 68 argued that an Electoral College should determine if candidates are qualified, not engaged in demagogy, and independent from foreign influence. Mr. Trump shows us again and again that he does not meet these standards. Given his own public statements, it isn’t clear how the Electoral College can ignore these issues, and so it should reject him.

I have poured countless hours into serving the party of Lincoln and electing its candidates. I will pour many more into being more faithful to my party than some in its leadership. But I owe no debt to a party. I owe a debt to my children to leave them a nation they can trust.

Mr. Trump lacks the foreign policy experience and demeanor needed to be commander in chief. During the campaign more than 50 Republican former national security officials and foreign policy experts co-signed a letter opposing him. In their words, “he would be a dangerous president.” During the campaign Mr. Trump even said Russia should hack Hillary Clinton’s emails. This encouragement of an illegal act has troubled many members of Congress and troubles me.

Hamilton also reminded us that a president cannot be a demagogue. Mr. Trump urged violence against protesters at his rallies during the campaign. He speaks of retribution against his critics. He has surrounded himself with advisers such as Stephen K. Bannon, who claims to be a Leninist and lauds villains and their thirst for power, including Darth Vader. “Rogue One,” the latest “Star Wars” installment, arrives later this month. I am not taking my children to see it to celebrate evil, but to show them that light can overcome it.

Gen. Michael T. Flynn, Mr. Trump’s pick for national security adviser, has his own checkered past about rules. He installed a secret internet connection in his Pentagon office despite rules to the contrary. Sound familiar?

Finally, Mr. Trump does not understand that the Constitution expressly forbids a president to receive payments or gifts from foreign governments. We have reports that Mr. Trump’s organization has business dealings in Argentina, Bahrain, Taiwan and elsewhere. Mr. Trump could be impeached in his first year given his dismissive responses to financial conflicts of interest. He has played fast and loose with the law for years. He may have violated the Cuban embargo, and there are reports of improprieties involving his foundation and actions he took against minority tenants in New York. Mr. Trump still seems to think that pattern of behavior can continue.

The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience. I believe electors should unify behind a Republican alternative, an honorable and qualified man or woman such as Gov. John Kasich of Ohio. I pray my fellow electors will do their job and join with me in discovering who that person should be.

Fifteen years ago, I swore an oath to defend my country and Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. On Dec. 19, I will do it again.
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Whatever makes you happy, i guess.

Obviously you don't like what I said.

Why should I be okay with what he said?
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Oh what's that? Population is receding in red areas and booming in blue areas? Color me shocked. Who would've thought... urban centers are where population growth occurs. Strange.


Once we start rounding up these illegals in mass and ship them off, the mexicans will start voting republican once they realize their neighborhoods are safer and there's more jobs available.
And that other portion is from the arm pit of Texas called Austin. If you wanna get scammed and butt-raped, move to Austin, TX. It's been taken over by those california hippies.
Texas will stay red.
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Once we start rounding up these illegals in mass and ship them off, the mexicans will start voting republican once they realize their neighborhoods are safer and there's more jobs available.
And that other portion is from the arm pit of Texas called Austin. If you wanna get scammed and butt-raped, move to Austin, TX. It's been taken over by those california hippies.
Texas will stay red.

And there we have it folks, bob finally bleeding his true bigoted colors.

Maybe you should go back to
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We can ship bob and his mates into the ocean.
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Once we start rounding up these illegals in mass
This immigrant, who speaks English as her third language, thinks your grammar is appalling.

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So that we all know what you're really about.
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:03 PM   #112
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And there we have it folks, bob finally bleeding his true bigoted colors.

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how so? I said nothing bigoted. Just telling the truth.
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Wow you're a sputtering mess. May be time to step away from the keyboard for a while.

Make you a deal, if you're willing to answer just two of those questions intelligentIy I will.


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We can ship bob and his mates into the ocean.


Classy comment once again from the genocide supporting commie.
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This immigrant, who speaks English as her third language, thinks your grammar is appalling.







So that we all know what you're really about.


What was my grammar mistake? I have excellent grammar. Must be jealous -- Sad!
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Classy comment once again from the genocide supporting commie.
Don't remember supporting genocide anywhere? Unless it's one of your 'cultural Marxism'/'white genocide'-esque hysteria.

All fascists into the sea.
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Once we start rounding up these illegals in mass and ship them off, the mexicans will start voting republican once they realize their neighborhoods are safer and there's more jobs available.
And that other portion is from the arm pit of Texas called Austin. If you wanna get scammed and butt-raped, move to Austin, TX. It's been taken over by those california hippies.
Texas will stay red.



You can't make this stuff up, folks.
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We can ship bob and his mates into the ocean.
Bob will circumnavigate the world like Magellan. The ship will be rotting down to the waterline. That's destiny. That's will. That's striving. That's being a trailblazer an explorer. Going into space !!! Quantum mechanics . . . The Secrets of the Universe !!! Right Bob
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The demographics are flipping. Don't expect you to realize that because the liberals are so out of touch. Trump wouldn't have won if it weren't for significantly out performing with African americans and hispanics.
No one with a mathematical understanding above 4th grade believes this or could justify this. Who is force feeding you this crap?

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Once we start rounding up these illegals in mass and ship them off, the mexicans will start voting republican once they realize their neighborhoods are safer and there's more jobs available.
And that other portion is from the arm pit of Texas called Austin. If you wanna get scammed and butt-raped, move to Austin, TX. It's been taken over by those california hippies.
Texas will stay red.
True colors.

THIS is your typical Trump supporter folks, but no, let's sugarcoat and pretend bigotry, hatred, and ignorance had nothing to do with it.



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You can't make this stuff up, folks.

Let's just all start breaking whatever laws we want.
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