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Old 11-18-2016, 01:55 PM   #61
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I'm curious -- once Sessions is confirmed, does that mean his senate seat becomes available in an emergency election?

Maybe Trump is systematically removing the scum and then he'll fire them all!

A guy can dream
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Old 11-18-2016, 01:58 PM   #62
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Not to pick on you, but this is quite patronizing. We are not amateur political scientists (at least I'm not, quite literally). The problem is not that we "are not in tune with" the topic, but that, from my perspective (I don't want to speak for others), DaveC is simply wrong on political theory.

It wasn't meant to be patronizing, sorry. I don't recall the exact degree Dave said he completed, but this is what he said was his field of knowledge/expertise.

It wasn't meant to be a shot at everyone else. Just an acknowledgement that it's near-and-dear to him, so it's probably frustrating.
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Old 11-18-2016, 01:59 PM   #63
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It wasn't meant to be patronizing, sorry. I don't recall the exact degree Dave said he completed, but this is what he said was his field of knowledge/expertise.

It wasn't meant to be a shot at everyone else. Just an acknowledgement that it's near-and-dear to him, so it's probably frustrating.
No worries, I appreciate the good intentions. And it's an important issue. I just think many of us disagree with Dave, but he continuously tries to imply that we are not listening to him.
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Do you guys deal in anything but memes?

Like really?

Give me 1000 words (a basic essay) on this. I will accept references in the word count. Go.


it seems to be the new normal
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And, as opposed to the multiple sources disputing Trump's claim, we're just supposed to take your word for it without any evidence?
That's kinda how he got elected, isn't it?
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Bill Ford went to Trump while on the campaign begging him to stop slamming the company. He knows he'd be on the hot seat if he were to make any moves knowing his company is in the public eye. Trump took the assurance from Ford about the Kentucky plant staying put and played it to his advantage making Ford look good in the process. The Art of the Deal.

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I just think many of us disagree with Dave, but he continuously tries to imply that we are not listening to him.
i mean, ive only said every goddam time this has come up that i was using fascist Italy as a reference point and not nazi germany, so when something like this gets posted:

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You seem to overlook a number of things:
- Nobody is saying that the current situation is the same as Nazi Germany;
- Nobody is saying that we are now all of a sudden living under fascism, but rather that a significant portion of Trump's rhetoric evokes fascism, and that there are signs (I would say strong signs) that he may turn into an authoritarian leader, and possibly a fascist one at that;
- Fascim doesn't equal Nazism. Think of Mussolini's Italy or Salazar's Portugal and the similarities get closer.
yea, it's pretty friggin obvious that i'm not being listened to at all.
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Your insistence on being exactly correct about all of this is about as grating to me, right now, as when Vlad rolls his eyes at all of us for using the phrase "far left".
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Bill Ford went to Trump while on the campaign begging him to stop slamming the company. He knows he'd be on the hot seat if he were to make any moves knowing his company is in the public eye. Trump took the assurance from Ford about the Kentucky plant staying put and played it to his advantage making Ford look good in the process. The Art of the Deal.

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Let me get this straight; you mock someone for believing snopes even though they said nothing of snopes and posted a link with sources, but you just take Trump at his word even though he's a habitual liar?

Do you still believe Belichick wrote him an endorsement letter too?

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Your insistence on being exactly correct about all of this is about as grating to me, right now, as when Vlad rolls his eyes at all of us for using the phrase "far left".
cool story bro
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i mean, ive only said every goddam time this has come up that i was using fascist Italy as a reference point and not nazi germany, so when something like this gets posted:



yea, it's pretty friggin obvious that i'm not being listened to at all.
So, I went back to take the time to read your posts on fascism. And this is what you actually said:

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i don't mean to vlad this thread up too much, but nazis weren't technically fascists. only italy ever had an actual fascist government.
I don't know how else to put it, but unless you are stubbornly fixated to semantics and just saying this because of the actual Italian word Fasci, this view is essentially incorrect, and contrary to, really, just about any serious academic literature.

Let's just drop it, no point in discussing it any further.
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i'm quite pleased that "Vlad" is now a verb in FYM.
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I found this particular Twitter thread interesting:

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So, I went back to take the time to read your posts on fascism. And this is what you actually said:



I don't know how else to put it, but unless you are stubbornly fixated to semantics and just saying this because of the actual Italian word Fasci, this view is essentially incorrect, and contrary to, really, just about any serious academic literature.

Let's just drop it, no point in discussing it any further.
well ya got me. i made a mistake on one point so clearly i haven't got a clue what im talking about overall. you win, congrats.
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