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Old 12-10-2004, 11:38 AM   #16
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Another staged event?



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you're just helping the terrorists. we here in America enact a faith-based foreign policy whereby what we believe to be true is such -- please take your reality-based photos about the horrible human cost of a pre-emptive, erroneously-justified, and tragically mismanaged war off the American-invented internet.
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I think there's plenty of troop frustration and anger that they just don't feel free to express.

This was a good interview last night. I don't think it matters one iota to the families who asked that question, and I think their feelings about it are really all that matters when it comes to this subject.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...10/pzn.01.html
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This burns me up. I'm not sorry I signed a petition demanding Rumsfeld's resignation, that's for sure.
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So far I've been the only one to comment on this: http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/...secdef1761.html. It's the official transcript between Rumsfeld and the troops. Based on that, I think that one question about safety got completely blown out of proportion by the media.
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So far I've been the only one to comment on this: http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/...secdef1761.html. It's the official transcript between Rumsfeld and the troops. Based on that, I think that one question about safety got completely blown out of proportion by the media.
Did you see the video or the audio? There was a loud agreeance from the troops. I don't see how this is being blown out of proportion. Our troops don't feel 100% secure and we're telling them it's a production fault?! It's piss poor planning, period.
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I didn't see the video/audio. Hard to find time like that during exam week. I'm not surprised that someone raised concerns about the safety. Maybe not blown out of proportion according to your description, with the troops agreeing loudly. However, I would like to see the peace make the news instead of just every detail of the war. Whether or not you're for it or not, the troops need to know that we appreciate their willingness to serve our country.
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I didn't see the video/audio. Hard to find time like that during exam week. I'm not surprised that someone raised concerns about the safety. Maybe not blown out of proportion according to your description, with the troops agreeing loudly. However, I would like to see the peace make the news instead of just every detail of the war. Whether or not you're for it or not, the troops need to know that we appreciate their willingness to serve our country.
I agree and good luck with your exams...
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Thanks, time to study up.
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Time Article

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If nothing else, Specialist Wilson's grilling of Rumsfeld may finally force the military's civilian bosses to heed the concerns of soldiers like Captain Mark Chung, 37, an Army reservist who served in Iraq for nine months this year. Chung survived two roadside bomb attacks on his armored humvee; the second bomb exploded on the passenger side directly under his seat. "The up-armored humvee was the only thing that saved my life," he says. After returning from Iraq last month, Chung visited the Pentagon to implore officials to send more armored humvees to Iraq. He never got in to see Rumsfeld. "I knocked on his door," Chung says, "but the people in his office said I needed an appointment to see him." For the sake of the Americans risking their lives in Iraq, Rumsfeld would be wise to make some time for the soldiers now.
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Scrounging for Iraq war puts GIs in jail

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HOENIX, Arizona (AP) -- U.S. Sen. John McCain said Monday that he has "no confidence" in Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, citing Rumsfeld's handling of the war in Iraq and the failure to send more troops.

McCain, speaking to The Associated Press in an hourlong interview, said his comments were not a call for Rumsfeld's resignation, explaining that President Bush "can have the team that he wants around him."

Asked about his confidence in the secretary's leadership, McCain recalled fielding a similar question a couple weeks ago.

"I said no. My answer is still no. No confidence," McCain said.

He estimated an additional 80,000 Army personnel and 20,000 to 30,000 more Marines would be needed to secure Iraq.

"I have strenuously argued for larger troop numbers in Iraq, including the right kind of troops -- linguists, special forces, civil affairs, etc.," said McCain, R-Arizona. "There are very strong differences of opinion between myself and Secretary Rumsfeld on that issue."

When asked if Rumsfeld was a liability to the Bush administration, McCain responded: "The president can decide that, not me."

Despite the troop levels, McCain believes military morale remains high, but he acknowledged that involuntary extensions of tours of duty were frustrating to soldiers.

He said Iraq must have a functioning independent government before U.S. troops leave.

"I believe we'll be in Iraq militarily for many years, which would not be a problem to the American people," he said. "I think what is not acceptable to the American people is an increasing flow of dead and wounded."
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Ouch for Rumsfeld. McCain is more in touch with the average American, that's for sure.
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Is McCain getting his cojones back?
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I think the WMD was either an honest mistake on bad intelligence, or the weapons somehow got away. I think it was full of good intentions, but we went wrong some way or another if we haven't found them yet.
the road to hell is paved with good intentions, you know.
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