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Old 07-20-2013, 06:19 PM   #931
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Only after GZ had stalked him and stared him down for several minutes for no good or legal reason.
Perhaps - but I think the recent crime wave in the neighborhood certainly had GZ "on high alert".
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:25 AM   #932
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"I think it's time to have an honest conversation on race in this country." Barack Obama

Oh wait. He didn't request this. Instead he said that he could've been TM 35 yrs ago. Or TM could have been his son. He's not looking for an honest conversation on race. He's just playing to the race baiting left.

Why not talk about all the young black men and women killing each other in his hometown including a six year old girl.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4527420.story

Why not talk about all the black men and women robbing white people in the city of Chicago, his hometown on the Magnificent Mile? http://my.chicagotribune.com/#sectio.../p2p-76736836/

Why? Because its only racism when it's white on black. Not black on white. The white cracker Zimmerman deserved it cause he followed TM.

Ridiculous. Keep arguing you're point Obama and it'll come back to bite you.
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Why not talk about all the young black men and women killing each other in his hometown including a six year old girl.
If you actually listened to his whole speech, you'd realize that he did talk about black on black crime.

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Why not talk about all the black men and women robbing white people in the city of Chicago, his hometown on the Magnificent Mile?
If you actually listened to his whole speech, you'd realize that he did talk about how black males are more likely to be victims and perpetrators of crime.

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Why? Because its only racism when it's white on black. Not black on white. The white cracker Zimmerman deserved it cause he followed TM.
Now who's race baiting?
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George Zimmerman isn't white
George Zimmerman isn't white
George Zimmerman isn't white
George Zimmerman isn't white
George Zimmerman isn't white

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"I think it's time to have an honest conversation on race in this country." Barack Obama

Oh wait. He didn't request this. Instead he said that he could've been TM 35 yrs ago. Or TM could have been his son. He's not looking for an honest conversation on race. He's just playing to the race baiting left.

Why not talk about all the young black men and women killing each other in his hometown including a six year old girl.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4527420.story

Why not talk about all the black men and women robbing white people in the city of Chicago, his hometown on the Magnificent Mile? http://my.chicagotribune.com/#sectio.../p2p-76736836/

Why? Because its only racism when it's white on black. Not black on white. The white cracker Zimmerman deserved it cause he followed TM.

Ridiculous. Keep arguing you're point Obama and it'll come back to bite you.


Exhibit A of why we have issues with race and racism in this country.
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Exhibit A of why we have issues with race and racism in this country.
Didn't he say he was a detective?

Honestly.
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Didn't he say he was a detective?

Honestly.
One would hope that a detective would want to hear the complete statement before jumping to conclusions.
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. The white cracker Zimmerman deserved it cause he followed TM.
It's not cracker - it's cracka
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Exhibit A of why we have issues with race and racism in this country.
Unfortunately we will probably always have some issues with race/culture relations. The question is - how best can we manage it?

Obvious cases of hypocrisy probably hurt more than help. I think the Zimmerman case is such an example.

We also have to be clear when it is a cultural issue vs race issue.

For instance - within the "white" race in America, there are several different cultures and sub-cultures. For instance - the "white" SoCal surfer culture is far different than the "white" backwoods of culture of West Virginia - which is different from the "white" Wall Street banker-elite culture...or the "white" hippies in NorCal...

The same for American blacks, Hispanics, Asians...

Furthermore - these cultures can overlap into to include other races.

It's one crazy looking Venn Diagram and not a melting pot, but we keep moving forward as best we can - incorporating/celebrating the good and tossing out the bad.
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"I think it's time to have an honest conversation on race in this country." Barack Obama
We've been talking about race since our nation's formation...

We've also had the bloodiest war in the Western Hemisphere, numerous riots, and countless murders around the idea of "race"...

In fact, we've had racial issues since the beginning of recorded history.

That doesn't mean we should stop talking about race - but it's ridiculous to suggest we start something that began since the first man ran into another shade of man from across the valley...
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"I think it's time to have an honest conversation on race in this country." Barack Obama

Oh wait. He didn't request this. Instead he said that he could've been TM 35 yrs ago. Or TM could have been his son. He's not looking for an honest conversation on race. He's just playing to the race baiting left.

Why not talk about all the young black men and women killing each other in his hometown including a six year old girl.
Girl, 6, shot in chest on South Side: 'It was horrific' - chicagotribune.com

Why not talk about all the black men and women robbing white people in the city of Chicago, his hometown on the Magnificent Mile? Chicago Tribune

Why? Because its only racism when it's white on black. Not black on white. The white cracker Zimmerman deserved it cause he followed TM.

Ridiculous. Keep arguing you're point Obama and it'll come back to bite you.
Dude. I think you missed the memo.

The Very Polite Conservative Response to Obama's Trayvon Martin Speech
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Unfortunately we will probably always have some issues with race/culture relations. The question is - how best can we manage it?
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We've been talking about race since our nation's formation...

We've also had the bloodiest war in the Western Hemisphere, numerous riots, and countless murders around the idea of "race"...

In fact, we've had racial issues since the beginning of recorded history.

That doesn't mean we should stop talking about race - but it's ridiculous to suggest we start something that began since the first man ran into another shade of man from across the valley...
Conversation probably is not the best word to define what you've described above.
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Probably not with this:
My point was that there was a specific distinction made - that by simply changing the spelling it was supposed to be somehow less offensive. Again, I'm pointing out some of the more obvious hypocrisy - something I would think essential if we are to continue an honest discussion on race.
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Conversation probably is not the best word to define what you've described above.
True - I should have pointed out that these events started out as conversations.
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