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Old 05-20-2012, 02:08 AM   #421
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No comments on the surveillance video of Mr Martin buying his candy.
What is this supposed to show?
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:40 AM   #422
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I'm pretty sure I read he died from a single gunshot wound to the chest.
Ugh, what? I have not been keeping up with this case, it's just what I remember reading from a news article. Wow. The way they keep spinning this is ridiculous. From outright lying about who got injured where, to trying to point out completely irrelevant facts about both parties, to even the tone and turning it into a race war. Ugh.
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Legally, a chest shot is a kill shot, as I understand it. Above the waist is attempted murder, correct?
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That's a silly law if it's true. Shoot someone in the thigh and they can bleed out in a couple minutes. And in the case of someone mounted on you, aiming for the leg isn't very realistic
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What is this supposed to show?
I guess that he kept the hoodie on in the store and was reaching into his pockets? Suspicious behavior?

All of these things are relevant-the pot (as far as whatever the level was contributed to his actions), the injuries to Zimmerman, and the injuries to Trayvon. I fail to see how the 7Eleven video is relevant in any way.

I was going to post about the ABC report but I had other things to do. Epic prejudiced librul fail on my part, I know.
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That's a silly law if it's true. Shoot someone in the thigh and they can bleed out in a couple minutes. And in the case of someone mounted on you, aiming for the leg isn't very realistic
Chances are slim if the police and an ambulance arrive. I still think it's better to at least try and avoid a kill-shot wound. Shooting someone in the leg is still a lot less deadly than shooting them right over their heart or in the face. I think gun laws need to be stricter in the training requirements to own a gun--for both the safety of the people using it, and the safety of those that don't. People who do own guns should have to show that they can think clearly in situations where they might need to use it, and that practice will be invaluable to them (in terms of self defense). The people who don't would probably feel a lot more comfortable.

Whether or not guns are legal, some people will always own them. It's better to make sure the people who do things legally are properly prepared so they are safer. Because if to get a gun legally, you're getting a lot of training, and it gives you a massive safety advantage.

And to add on to that, self defense (not with guns, just in general) should be taught in high school gym. I think it's silly that parents have to pay to teach a kid how to disarm an attacker (especially where I grew up--where mugging was pretty common).
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Chances are slim if the police and an ambulance arrive.
Except if it severs the femoral artery. That's badnews bears. Unless there was someone on the scene who could help, I doubt anyone could get there fast enough. I like everything else you said
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Chances are slim if the police and an ambulance arrive. I still think it's better to at least try and avoid a kill-shot wound. Shooting someone in the leg is still a lot less deadly than shooting them right over their heart or in the face. I think gun laws need to be stricter in the training requirements to own a gun--for both the safety of the people using it, and the safety of those that don't. People who do own guns should have to show that they can think clearly in situations where they might need to use it, and that practice will be invaluable to them (in terms of self defense). The people who don't would probably feel a lot more comfortable.

Whether or not guns are legal, some people will always own them. It's better to make sure the people who do things legally are properly prepared so they are safer. Because if to get a gun legally, you're getting a lot of training, and it gives you a massive safety advantage.

And to add on to that, self defense (not with guns, just in general) should be taught in high school gym. I think it's silly that parents have to pay to teach a kid how to disarm an attacker (especially where I grew up--where mugging was pretty common).
Fully agreed on this. Especially the teaching self-defense stuff.

Yeah. I've always thought if you were aiming anywhere at the chest especially or above, even if you weren't planning on killing them, you know the likelihood of the person dying is pretty good. Not always, of course, some people have made some amazing recoveries from such shootings. But there's important organs in the chest area that, if the bullet hits them just right, will shut down, and those aren't organs you can afford to have shut down.
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Four witnesses in the Trayvon Martin case have changed their stories, some "in ways that may damage" George Zimmerman, the Orlando Sentinel reports.

According to records released last week in the second-degree murder case, the witnesses—all of them neighbors—were interviewed multiple times by police and special prosecutors about what they saw on Feb. 26, the night Zimmerman fatally shot Martin in Sanford, Fla.

Four days after the shooting, one woman told police she "saw two guys running" and then "a fistfight. Just fists. I don't know who was hitting who." But on March 20, she told investigators she saw just one perso.

"I couldn't tell you if it was a man, a woman, a kid, black or white," the woman, "Witness 2," said. "I couldn't tell you because it was dark and because I didn't have my contacts on or glasses. I just know I saw a person out there."

Another witness, who was initially interviewed on March 20, said she saw two people on the ground immediately after the shooting but was not sure who was on top.

But in another interview with investigators six days later, the paper reported, she was sure: It was Zimmerman on top.

"I know after seeing the TV of what's happening, comparing their sizes, I think Zimmerman was definitely on top because of his size," the woman, "Witness 12," said.

A third witness, "Witness 6," told police on the night of the shooting that he saw a black man on top of a lighter-skinned man "just throwing down blows on the guy, MMA-style." He said the lighter-skinned man was calling for help. Interviewed later by investigators, he said he was not sure who was calling for help, and was not sure any punches were thrown.

A fourth witness also interviewed on the night of the shooting said he heard the shooting, ran outside, and saw Zimmerman standing with "blood on the back of his head." According to "Witness 13," Zimmerman told him that Martin "was beating up on me, so I had to shoot him."

A month later, the same witness described Zimmerman's demeanor: "[It was] not like 'I can't believe I just shot someone!' It was more like, 'Just tell my wife I shot somebody,' like it was nothing.
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Witness statements are unreliable as it is. Reflecting on the events for a week and changing your story is as unreliable as it gets. By then they've been affected by too many outside influences. They're initial recollections are far more reliable
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In the end, Martin wasn't the saintly innocent kid he was made out to be, and Zimmerman wasn't the devil he was are into.

But he still didn't deserve to die, and if Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have.

The media's sensationalism clouded the real issue in this case all along... gun control.
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I've ignored this thread up to now because I instinctively knew all along that the way the story was being presented was not what actually happened - and so it has turned out.

Now for a dose of reality:

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It was a tough week for racial witch hunters. In fact, it’s been a tough quarter-century for them. Reality keeps knocking the liberal media off its high horse. When they picked up the Trayvon Martin case, hordes of TV dupes donned hoods and said they, too, were all young black kids being murdered by racist vigilantes. Then we find out Zimmerman is some kind of Peruvian Jew and may have had his ass kicked by Trayvon before the shooting, so they drop it. They wanted Dharun Ravi to go jail for ten years for the hate crime of pranking his roommate, but the evidence left him serving 30 days for “colossal insensitivity.” When blacks are randomly assassinated in Oklahoma, the left quickly goes mute when they discover one of the shooters is Cherokee.

When a white couple is raped and dismembered in Knoxville, the media is suddenly deaf, dumb, and blind. When children get gang-raped but the bad guys are Muslim, even the police won’t touch it.

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I’ve only listed ten examples but there are dozens and dozens more. This is a great compilation of hate-crime hoaxes from 1993.

So when did we become such complete faggots about everything? The old America had men who built the Empire State Building in under two years—during the Depression—to spite a rival who built the Chrysler Building. Today we are so eager to capitulate, the Twin Towers collapse and we ask, “Why do they hate us?”

When you create a victim culture, you also create a vacuum where opportunistic parasites volunteer to fill the role and reap the rewards.

Leftists want America to be a racist hellhole so badly, they make it so. If we’re going to stampede anyone in the name of racial equality and justice for all, how about we start with them?


My 10 Favorite Hate-Crime Hoaxes - Taki's Magazine
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When a white couple is raped and dismembered in Knoxville, the media is suddenly deaf, dumb, and blind.
Right. 'Cause I tell you what, it's been ages since I've seen a story on TV in which a minority person was accused/convicted of committing a crime against white people.

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When children get gang-raped but the bad guys are Muslim, even the police won’t touch it.
Depending on where you live it might not make big news headlines, no. But note the first part of that sentence: depending on where you live. Not to mention, um, watch Fox News for a few hours and you'll get a whole different story.

Also, Zimmerman is still in the wrong and Ravi's still a jerk. Sorry.
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When a white couple is raped and dismembered in Knoxville, the media is suddenly deaf, dumb, and blind.
that is why I routinely pick up a braille newspaper
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"when did we become such complete faggots about everything"

Christ, what an asshole.
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