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Old 12-05-2006, 11:05 PM   #16
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Melon is right, comparing to alcohol is a poor comparison. This is more comparable to banning asbestos in construction.
Yep, and certain types of alcohol consumed very mildly can even be beneficial for your health. There's absolutely NO benefit to eating trans fat, even if it's a marginal amount. Everything else it was compared to is already illegal or tightly regulated.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:09 PM   #17
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In a bar or club, intoxicated people will not be served and will be removed by security if they're drunk enough.
I wonder though, how many people ever get prosecuted for this? I know in Canada we have the same law and I believe that the lowest blood alcohol prosecuted under this law was something close to 3x the legal limit which essentially means this law is useless. It would be interesting to see if things are different in Australia.
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Wich foods have trans fats??? please
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I wonder though, how many people ever get prosecuted for this? I know in Canada we have the same law and I believe that the lowest blood alcohol prosecuted under this law was something close to 3x the legal limit which essentially means this law is useless. It would be interesting to see if things are different in Australia.
The security industry in Australia has gone through some major overhauling in recent years to clean up its act. It's especially common in the larger venues even to hire a security firm to oversee their own security. A big leagues club near me, for example, spends an obscene amount having on-site monitoring in their monitoring room. Smaller pubs and so on also hire 'undercover' security to watch what their people are doing to ensure they are keeping the patrons in check and not risking the business. Of course it is far from perfect, and far from a working solution, and I'm sure large numbers still get away with no recourse whatsoever. While this doubling of security is one way of tackling the problem, you have smaller venues who either do not have the funds to do this, nor the inclination when you're talking about their regulars and subsequent livelihood.
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next, let's get started on banning high fructose corn syrup!

(THAT'S the root of the obesity epidemic)
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next, let's get started on banning high fructose corn syrup!

(THAT'S the root of the obesity epidemic)
Yes, PLEASE!

I spend half of my time at the grocery store reading labels to identify this evil substance and eliminate it from my purchases. It's astonishing how it finds its way into almost EVERYTHING!
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next, let's get started on banning high fructose corn syrup!

(THAT'S the root of the obesity epidemic)


Banning trans fats is a very good start but a lousy finish.
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next, let's get started on banning high fructose corn syrup!

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Is that what's in soda? If so, I'm all for it. It's the only way I'll be able to "quit"....
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Is that what's in soda? If so, I'm all for it. It's the only way I'll be able to "quit"....
You could just drink diet.
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I'm glad to hear about this. I hope many others will catch on fast.
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You could just drink diet.
Those artificial sweeteners are probably worse than the syrup in terms of health damage long term.
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Starbucks is now getting in on the banning trans fats action :

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/diet.....ap/index.html

SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- Starbucks Corp. is cutting trans fats from the doughnuts, muffins and other treats in half of its U.S. stores, and plans to eventually drop the artery-clogging fats from company-operated coffeehouses across the country.

The world's largest specialty coffee retailer has been working to eliminate trans fats from its food menu for about two years, spokesman Brandon Borrman said Tuesday.

"This is just something we have been working on, and our focus has always been on providing our customers with healthy and nutritious food options," Borrman said.

Trans fats, listed on food labels as partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, are believed to be harmful because they wreak havoc on cholesterol levels.

Standalone Starbucks stores in Seattle, Washington; San Francisco, California; Chicago, Illinois; Los Angeles, California; San Diego, California; Boston, Massachusetts; New York; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Washington; and Portland, Oregon will have zero trans fats in their food beginning Wednesday, Borrman said.

Getting the other half of U.S. stores to follow suit will take some time, as the company adjusts recipes with regional bakers and food suppliers.

However, Starbucks already had quietly replaced the fats in its nationally distributed food products, such as its seasonal pumpkin muffins and gingerbread, Borrman said.
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