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Nobody's perfect. I'm sure there isn't a person in here who doesn't struggle with squaring their various beliefs, and it's even harder for people of faith who want to live by the Bible.
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Wait a second...
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when is it time to torture? while i of course believe that GWB is beholden to people who would indeed wish to have a theocratic Christian order in the United States, i do think the president himself cares too much, insofar as that might be complicated to understand. you see, torture is a sign of laziness. and this president is nothing if not lazy. it's the quick and easy path, it's the half-assed way to get some information that may or may not be true. it's just like with Iraq. instead of spending the time and building an actual case against Saddam, this president (and Cheney, and Rummy, and even Colin Powell) decided that WMDs would be the quickest, easiest way to get their policy enacted, and so they went about manipulating intelligence. quick and easy. and lazy. to ruinous ends. my objection to torture has NOTHING to do with religion, and i don't think anyone's arguing that, because Christians are against torture, then the US government should be against torture. i think they are pointing out the inconsistencies between self-proclaimed Christians in here, and their embrace of torture.
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protect me from this "God" you speak of. this genocidal maniac is obviously not worth anything but fear, certainly not respect or love.
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Would it be better to have a seperate waterboarding/torture thread? That way the actual discussion of the race doesn't get lost in here.
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Clarify, please. Who doing the torture, or condoning it, is God?
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I don't really feel like going through the entire thread and separating it out post by post. But I can if it's needed. If people want to keep discussing the torture issue, I'd suggest starting a new thread. Back to the presidential race...
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Torture/Waterboarding: Discussion/Debate Thread
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Enough with the mental disorder comments. You disagree, fine. Enough with the childish games. I feel older than some of the people in this forum.
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