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Old 02-03-2008, 04:16 PM   #31
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Well of course they would have to make sure it's a correct guy, but I haven't seen any stories of completely innocent people being waterboarded.
There's no way to make sure. Not in the United States of America.
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How does a terror cell work?
Just because you are in a terror cell does not mean you know everything. Terrorists are taught two things: motivation against a certain enemy and how to carry out a specific job. They don't know the entire terror cell, its plans, its people. They know what they're supposed to do.
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Every Christian I know believes in the Bible.

And it is full of a lot worse than this water torture, which I do not support.

I find most of the old testament to be quite grotesque.
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Every Christian I know believes in the Bible.
I actually am Christian but do not believe in most of the Bible.
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I believe in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.


I reject much of the horror, racism, murder, prejudice, sexism that I was taught in Sunday School, with the Bible Stories.

These stories conditioned me to be intolerant of others with the justification that it was morally permissible. I no longer believe that.
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I pretty much expected you would really answer the question. I don't think Jesus ever expressed a "by any means necessary" approach.

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Look, I obviously would never condone waterboarding my friend who owes me 5 bucks, but a terrorist who would stop at nothing to kill me and you and destroy my country, I'm alright with. I believe God would prefer that to perversion of religion and terrorist attacks killing thousands of innocent lives. How many more Jews would have been killed if nothing was done to stop Hitler?
Wow, you are horrible with analogies.


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Do some people in here feel sorry for waterboarded terrorists?


Look up, did you see that? That's the point flying over your head.
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but I haven't seen any stories of completely innocent people being waterboarded.


Yeah, because that's something they would admit to...
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I believe in the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.


I reject much of the horror, racism, murder, prejudice, sexism that I was taught in Sunday School, with the Bible Stories.

These stories conditioned me to be intolerant of others with the justification that it was morally permissible. I no longer believe that.
Well yes, there's obviously a difference between believing in the stories in the Bible and supporting every single action in the Bible.
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Look up, did you see that? That's the point flying over your head.
Well that's the belief that I seem to be getting among some here.
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Wow, you are horrible with analogies.

Look up. That's my point flying over your head.
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You. Can't. Prove. It.

You can't prove the person you've captured is a terrorist.
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Look, I obviously would never condone waterboarding my friend who owes me 5 bucks,

Do some people in here feel sorry for waterboarded terrorists?

Five bucks?

Probably not.

How about a thousand or ten grand?

Now, that is some serious money.




I think anyone that is against it 100%
is just be a softie, and may feel sorry for terrorists getting harsh treatment.


That is one reason why W is qualified to be Commander and Chief
and Obama may not have the stomach for the job.
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Well yes, there's obviously a difference between believing in the stories in the Bible and supporting every single action in the Bible.
Do you support the actions of Samson?
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I find most of the old testament to be quite grotesque.
There are many not so nice stories in the New Testament also.
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Well that's the belief that I seem to be getting among some here.
Well, then you are wrong.
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