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Old 09-28-2007, 02:17 PM   #16
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Christofascists.
Yeah - those darn Christians in American...going around chopping off heads, blowing up pre-schools, raping women...why can't we just have a country like those in the Middle East? - where equality, peace, and tolerance reigns supreme.
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Yeah - those darn Christians in American...going around chopping off heads, blowing up pre-schools, raping women...why can't we just have a country like those in the Middle East? - where equality, peace, and tolerance reigns supreme.


we've been through this a million times -- you know exactly who i'm referring to when i use the phrase "Christofascists." and it's not much of an argument to say, "yeah, well, we're better than the Jihadists!"

but, yes, i do think that if not for the separation of church and state and for the rule of law and for the continued economic prosperity, there are many in the US who are just a step or two away from jihad (especially whenever a doctor is shot or a gay bar bombed or freaking J.K. Rowling gets death threats for her pagan/witchcraft writings).
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I'm sooooooo FUCKING sick of hearing about MoveOn.org
A fucking fringe of idiots.

This is precisely the gimmick of the Republicans in general.
Oh wait!!! I think a gay marriage just broke out!!
Change the conversation, put the left on the defensive against an army of strawmen. And the saddest thing is, it works, more of than not.

Just maybe a hint of perspective to those who watch Faux News or listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage and O'Reilly:
51 million people voted for Al Gore in 2000
59 million people voted for John Kerry in 2004
3 million people belong to MoveOn.org in 2007.

You do the math.

This is what they do, a great example of why they are better at the game and why they win more elections. Find the bogeyman, whatever his stripes are, create the wound and then just pick at it over and over again. Maginify the morons and pain the VAST majority. Great strategy.

It doesn't have to make any sense. At all.

Someone let the Dems know they can play dumb too.
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I'm sooooooo FUCKING sick of hearing about MoveOn.org
A fucking fringe of idiots.

This is precisely the gimmick of the Republicans in general.
Oh wait!!! I think a gay marriage just broke out!!
Change the conversation, put the left on the defensive against an army of strawmen. And the saddest thing is, it works, more of than not.

Just maybe a hint of perspective to those who watch Faux News or listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage and O'Reilly:
51 million people voted for Al Gore in 2000
59 million people voted for John Kerry in 2004
3 million people belong to MoveOn.org in 2007.

You do the math.

This is what they do, a great example of why they are better at the game and why they win more elections. Find the bogeyman, whatever his stripes are, create the wound and then just pick at it over and over again. Maginify the morons and pain the VAST majority. Great strategy.

It doesn't have to make any sense. At all.

Someone let the Dems know they can play dumb too.
I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.
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I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.
MoveOn and it's supposed representation of the 'left'.
We'll split the Gore and Kerry vote, what is that 54 million?
So 3 into 54 or 1 to 18.

<2% of the Democratic base is a lunatic fringe MoveOn member. The talking heads and right wing press treats the supposed attack on Petraeus (for one example) as some indication of where the opposition to the war is. As if it is some vast majority, rather than <2%.

They'll use this to frame the discussion on the war.
They are doing it now.
The dumbshits are fooled.

Unfortunately, that's a winning strategy.
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and Bill Clinton knocks it out of the fucking park:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...ontroversy.cnn
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I'll be expecting a Laura Ingraham book using MoveOn as half of her sources, entitled "Every Democrat is the Devil."
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