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Old 10-23-2004, 01:26 PM   #16
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The word "tolerance" is used wrongly today. It actually means to tolerate differing viewpoints, but not to see them as equally valid. Today it seems that nobody has ever heard of the law of noncontradiction, and tolerance means seeing all views as equally valid, which is ridiculous.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:15 PM   #17
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I disagree that terrorism arises from the depths of poverty. Many terrorists and their leaders are rather well off and pretty educated. Bin Laden's family is wealthy, and if I am not mistaken, the 9/11 terrorists were not picked from poverty.

About the KKK, their followers are not necessarily those who are disadvantaged. The Klan had two zeniths of power-the late 1860s/early 1870s and the 1920s. The original Klan was started by people who were more or less southern "gentleman" as a social club. It then went awry as they noticed their society undergoing immense change during Reconstruction. During the 1920s, the move arose more out of nativism after the Red Scare than any sort of economic upheaval and then disappeared as many cities and towns grew tired of their corruption and extremism. The Klan now is not even worth talking about as they are relegated to Jerry Springer appearances. I think many people discount the power of religion and philosophy as motivation for action whether it be violent or peaceful.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:44 PM   #18
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I disagree that terrorism arises from the depths of poverty. Many terrorists and their leaders are rather well off and pretty educated. Bin Laden's family is wealthy, and if I am not mistaken, the 9/11 terrorists were not picked from poverty.

Yes the leaders are usually very wealthy and/ or educated but the ones usually strapping the bombs to themselves are not. Do you honestly think Bin Laden would do that himself? I agree there are some that are just brainwashed, but the majority of the followers are picked out of poverty.

Do you think we would have gangs without poverty?
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Old 10-23-2004, 06:05 PM   #19
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But terrorism is not made up of gangs, Islamofascism is most definitely not a gang like behaviour.

Mohammed Atta was well off and educated, most of the international terrorists are wealthy individuals - even those that die for their cause. If you want the classic example of poverty not being the principle factor in this you can see the PLO Arab suicide homocide bombers, the mean family wealth of the bombers is higher than that of the average PLO Arab family, they are not driven by poverty and hopelessness they are driven to it by careful conditioning by the Arab media and their religious leaders. This is motivated by religious hatred - the only problem for us is that we have no comprehension of this hatred and the media "protect" us from the truth in the name of tollerance.
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