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Old 04-29-2005, 05:07 PM   #1
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40 Christians Arrested in Saudi Arabia for Religious Activity By Saudi Religious Police: 'For Trying to Spread the Poison and their Beliefs'

On April 23, 2005, Saudi newspapers reported that 40 Pakistanis were arrested by the Saudi religious police in a Riyadh apartment for conducting Christian religious activity. The following are excerpts from the reports:

The Saudi daily Al-Jazirah reported that 40 men, women, and children with Pakistani citizenship were arrested on April 21, 2005 after performing Christian religious rites in an apartment in the Thaharat Al-Badi'a neighborhood in western Riyadh. The arrest was part of a sweeping police operation by the Riyadh District Police, at the order of Riyadh Governor Prince Salman bin Abd Al-'Aziz.

The paper reported that the operation came after Saudi religious police – known as the Authority for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice [1] – followed and collected information on the activity of the 40, who listened to a proselytizing lecture by a Pakistani minister.

The paper also noted that during the police operation, which lasted nearly 10 hours, a cross and a large number of proselytizing books and cassettes were found [in the apartment]. The detainees themselves stated that they had come to listen to lectures by the minister. One of the detainees was a Muslim Pakistani, who acknowledged that he had been influenced by the Christian ideology. [2]

The Saudi daily Al-Riyadh said that the detainees had set up a church in the apartment, equipped with crosses, pictures, and statues. Likewise, it was said that during their religious activity, one of them was found praying, as the others present repeated their words, and one of the women arrested was listing the people's confessions and distributing writs of absolution. The Al-Riyadh report included a photo of the detainees and of a large cross and the group which was arrested.

A Saudi religious police source explained the reason for the arrest: "These people tried to spread the poison and their beliefs to others, by means of distributing pamphlets and [missionary] publications." He said that all the detainees "had been transferred to the relevant bodies for investigation." [3]

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I'm not surprised. Technically, private non-Muslim religious activities are legal in Saudi Arabia, but they crack down on anything considered too "public", and this involves private citizens calling the religious police. The liberals hate this but you don't hear of them winning too many political battles in that country.
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This is nothing new. It goes on everyday in numerous nations across the globe.

To do something about it, visit Voice of the Martyrs, which is almost like an Amnesty International for persecuted Christians at www.persecution.com.
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I'm not surprised. Technically, private non-Muslim religious activities are legal in Saudi Arabia, but they crack down on anything considered too "public", and this involves private citizens calling the religious police. The liberals hate this but you don't hear of them winning too many political battles in that country.
And remember, the concept of private/public is a little different than in the US.

When my wife and her family lived in Saudi, Christmas celebrations were so subtle that the average American might not even recognize the holiday (such as a small display of gold, frankincense and myrrh). Anything more would have resulted in trouble.

Quite a different perspective of the dominant religion’s tolerance for other religions.
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The Saudi daily Al-Jazirah reported that 40 men, women, and children with Pakistani citizenship were arrested on April 21, 2005 after performing Christian religious rites in an apartment in the Thaharat Al-Badi'a neighborhood in western Riyadh.

Maybe, President Bush will go over and hold their hands.
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I know of some folks who snuck some contraband (wine and Bibles) into Saudi Arabia for their private use.

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I know of some folks who snuck some contraband (wine and Bibles) into Saudi Arabia for their private use.

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Gosh, the wine is risky, since that stuff is illegal in Saudi Arabia. This doesn't keep some members of the royal family for keeping spirits in their private palaces.
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I know of some folks who snuck some contraband (wine and Bibles) into Saudi Arabia for their private use.

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Gosh, the wine is risky, since that stuff is illegal in Saudi Arabia. This doesn't keep some members of the royal family for keeping spirits in their private palaces.
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you can say that agian
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Sorry for the double post, Interference is running slow and I'll never be known for my patience.
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This is the Saudi Arabian flag. The Arabic says this:

"There is none worthy of worship except Allah; Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah"

Again, that might have something to do with their gross intolerance of difference, not to mention that very menacing "Sword of Islam" underneath that saying.

They might as well throw a decapitated head on their flag. It would be more appropriate.

FYI, I'm not a fan of Saudi Arabia.

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This doesn't keep some members of the royal family for keeping spirits in their private palaces.
Make that 'all members of any family in their private mini-palaces'. It would make a more accurate statement.

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The muttawa are most certainly a scary aspect of that state.
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