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Old 12-07-2001, 11:27 PM   #1
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Today was the 60th anniversary of the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor

*Silence*
Never forget.

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Yes, we should remember them in silence and never forget.
Also, I would like to remember the countless of innocent Japanese civilians who died in the atomic bomb attacks at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I shall never forget them, either.

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Yes, we should also remember those who died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But at the same time, we should NOT turn our moment of remembrance into an opportunity to appear even-handed and well reasoned and suggest that the two military actions were morally equivalent.

When we, the United States, dropped the two atomic bombs on Japan, we were getting ready to launch a full-scale ground assault on the mainland, an assault against thousands of soldiers and millions of so-called civilians who showed themselves willing to fight to the last man, woman, and child.

NOT using the atomic bombs would have resulted in a bloodbath that would make Iwo Jima and Okinawa look like training exercises.

Beyond that, we were fighting in a war that we DID NOT START. They attacked us, unannounced and unprovoked, on an early Sunday morning while we were at peace.

The only proper response to that kind of attack is overwhelming force, a military reply that not only causes equal damage, but more damage - that not only defeats the enemy, but eradicates them.
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Yes, I'm sure you're right AchtungBubba, but forgetting women and children being incinerated doesn't make me feel better as a human being.

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Every year we relive that horrible moment in U.S. History. I hate to say this, because it will undoubtedly get me stonned, but think enough is enough.
It's treated almost like a national holiday or something. We were attacked for Christ's sake!
To realize why I think we should let sleeping dogs lie, think of what our world would be like if we had a moment of silence for every damn horror that EVER took place and harmed a large number of people. ---We'd never be able to enjoy our lives.
I'm only 21, and I'm already getting tired of being told EVERY YEAR about how 'today is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor...let's talk about how brave our grandfather were" or "Elvis Presely died on this day back in 1977...let's do another stupid news story on the Nightly News"...
Urrrghhh! I just had to vent that frustration...
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I know I'm sounding ungrateful and stupid, but I believe in giving respect where it's due. And in my opinion we've already thanked the LORD for getting us through that horrible time of history.
I really don't want to sound like I'm spiteful at all the attention given to his date, because I do realize the importance of it. I just feel that it's so phony when the President makes a speech, and members of the media create a big hyped televison program to commemorate the deaths of thousands of men and women and children.
I'm not angry at the idea of paying tribute so much as I'm angry at the nature of human being and how they can take something that's so special to a certain demographic and use it to win votes polticially, and wins ratings by seduction.
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Well, i agree that the presidents speech always sounds phoney. The media coverage can be too, but often is actually quite well done.

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Ive heard promos for the pearl harbour dvd trying to sell off the anniversary...
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Beyond that, we were fighting in a war that we DID NOT START. They attacked us, unannounced and unprovoked, on an early Sunday morning while we were at peace.
I've seen this line of reasoning dragged out over and over again....."Well, they attacked us first, so whatever we do to them is OK".

It is the same line of reasoning that produces tyrants and pulls "freedom-loving" nations down the slippery slope towards atrocity.
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Maybe you could try to pass some law that prohibits Americans from making speeches about it or commemorating it.
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Maybe you could try to pass some law that prohibits Americans from making speeches about it or commemorating it.
Perhaps you need a lesson in basic logic?

I made a statement about how a sneak attack does not give us the right to respond with no regard for civillian casualities and you somehow transform that through some magical thought process into "DoctorGonzo wants to ban all commemoration and discussion of Pearl Harbor"

WTF?

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Originally posted by DoctorGonzo:
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I thought they determined that "sneak attack" was racist, offensive, and politically incorrect towards the Japanese attackers?

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Originally posted by Danospano:
Every year we relive that horrible moment in U.S. History. I hate to say this, because it will undoubtedly get me stonned, but think enough is enough.
It's treated almost like a national holiday or something. We were attacked for Christ's sake!
To realize why I think we should let sleeping dogs lie, think of what our world would be like if we had a moment of silence for every damn horror that EVER took place and harmed a large number of people. ---We'd never be able to enjoy our lives.
I'm only 21, and I'm already getting tired of being told EVERY YEAR about how 'today is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor...let's talk about how brave our grandfather were" or "Elvis Presely died on this day back in 1977...let's do another stupid news story on the Nightly News"...
Urrrghhh! I just had to vent that frustration...
i agree. why don't we try remembering the people and forget about the incident? human history is really nothing to be proud of.

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