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Old 05-14-2002, 01:18 PM   #16
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Go watch the first scene of Resevoir Dogs.

I thinnk it sucks not to tip. I mean I am also just doing my job, but doing my job does not require me to carry disgusting plates used by slobs like us, or clena up after people like us.

I tip no less than 20%, unless the person is rude, or does not do their job.
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Old 05-14-2002, 01:24 PM   #17
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BTW, and sorry if Im uneducated about it, but where did 15, 20% come from? Is there some unwritten rule?
Inflation
Cost of Living

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Old 05-14-2002, 01:25 PM   #18
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By they way I have to say I laughed when I read the thread title.

I thought you were talking about cow tipping for some reason. LOL.
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Old 05-14-2002, 01:54 PM   #19
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Inflation
Cost of Living

But thats what I meant when I talked about why it went from 10% (when I was a kid) to 15-20 now...the cost of living inflation thing is already reflected in the rise in the cost of the meal, and even if you only tip 10%, you are tipping more than you would have years ago, right?

As for rich people tipping over 15%, that's really nice for them, I'm glad they are able to. I wish I waited on them...lets say they go to a restaurant for 2 hrs, spend $300 (assuming its a fancy restaurant)...that means the tip they've left is $75 dollars??? Holy toledo Batman where do I sign up??That' almost $40/hr, and assuming that alot of rich people do the same, constantly too! That's gotta be the best paying unskilled job around!!! Well, except...never mind..lol..as for tipping hotel workers $10-20 a day???. I dont know about that, lets say a hotel worker does 20 rooms in one day, and everybody leaves $10. Wow, that's $200 per day on top of salary, and Im sure they ain't reporting it...that's excessive, in my opinion. Its more than alot of people in skilled jobs get paid (and taxed thru the nose for). Third world country or not, I had to go to university and bust my ass for a good few years in my job before I broke the $150/day mark.

I agree, its hard to draw the line. Why does the person who serves me my coffee and bagel at the Tim's drive thru deserve a tip any less than the surly teenager that works at Big Burger? Because they didnt have to walk to my table? Ummmm....lol

One thing I am going to take away from this thread is that maybe I should meet halfway and tip 15% for good service, if that is now the socially acceptable norm..

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Old 05-14-2002, 02:30 PM   #20
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Depends on the country Iím in. While in America, yes, I tip about 15-18% depending on the service. Iíve never knowingly stiffed someone even if they were lousy, probably because Iím too soft-hearted. Lol. However, when travelling in Europe or Asia I generally donít tip because service is included (says so on the menu). As far as coffeeshops, I might throw in a bit of change if I have some, but I donít make a habit of it (since I rarely use cash anyways )
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Old 05-14-2002, 02:31 PM   #21
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By they way I have to say I laughed when I read the thread title.

I thought you were talking about cow tipping for some reason. LOL.
That was the first thing I thot too!



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By they way I have to say I laughed when I read the thread title.
I thought you were talking about cow tipping for some reason. LOL.
cow tipping is a hoax.
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Old 05-14-2002, 04:11 PM   #23
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My understanding was that people in restaurants get at least minimum wage, is that not so? Well, at least in Canada, isn't minimum wage like $7.50 or something?
In Canada, minimum wage is $6.85, provided that you are 18 years old. If you're under that, you can get less.

If you work in a restaurant, you will not get minimum wage. For example, I believe Red Lobster pays in the neighbourhood of $5.25/hour.
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In the US, 15% is the avg tip. Ussually, the tip is double the tax so on a $100 check Gabriel Vox, If you only left me $10, I would have to kick your canadian arse!!! Also, the other thing to remember is that, generally speaking, a resturant is not busy allnight. It may have a good dinner rush where you might wait on 4 tables and bring in $30 in tips, but by 10 or 11, you might not have any tables and there fore no tips, so it avgs out. I'd say, (from my experience at TGI Fridays) that waiters can expect to make about $10-12 an hour with the good ones a few dollars more. It may seem like a lot, but believe me, waitering is bot an easy job, especially in a place like TGIF. AS for my experience in bartending, we make a little bit more (I avg 20-25 an hour) but, that's a whole different story

Well I have to compliment the staff at TGI Friday's...It was our last meal in Florida and we kinda chanced on it as the line up for the Olive Garden was about an hour and a half long.

We thorougly enjoyed our meal, and the wait staff was excellent, service far above the norm and/or what we expected. I think our bill was like $62.00 and I left $70 and had no second thoughts about it.

I guess if the service is good, the sky's the limit!

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In Canada, minimum wage is $6.85, provided that you are 18 years old. If you're under that, you can get less.

If you work in a restaurant, you will not get minimum wage. For example, I believe Red Lobster pays in the neighbourhood of $5.25/hour.
There are exceptions to the minimum wage law in Canada? If not, how does RL get away with that??

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I think an argument can be made that, in the instance of waiters/waitresses for example, they may give better service if they are trying for a better tip. If they are just being paid a straight salary, where's the incentive to provide exceptional service?
Well, in a world without tipping, you could complain to the manager about a lousy waitperson or simply patronize other establishments.
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I work at CC's Coffee we have a tip jar and it's a good thing too, my paycheck is so lousy and I'm pulling like 26 hours/week (which will be easier to do now that I'm finished with high school). Tips come out to be like half of my salary, and I only get like $50 in tips a week. That's not so hot. Anyway the tips are distributed to all employees depending on their hours worked, I think it's definately a good thing--espresso bars aren't always as easy as they may seem especially in the mornings when everyone simply must have their fix As far as waiters/waitresses I always tip, even moreso being in a position where I receive tips.

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Well I have to compliment the staff at TGI Friday's...It was our last meal in Florida and we kinda chanced on it as the line up for the Olive Garden was about an hour and a half long.

We thorougly enjoyed our meal, and the wait staff was excellent, service far above the norm and/or what we expected. I think our bill was like $62.00 and I left $70 and had no second thoughts about it.

I guess if the service is good, the sky's the limit!

*Zooropa heads off to canada to beat Gabriel Vox with a breadstick...*

Seriously though, I guess it does matter where you live. It seems in canada that tipped employees make a higher per hour wage than they do in the states. It also matters somewhat where you are in the states. In NY, tipping is expected to be in the 18-20% range but in The midwest, 15% is considered generous. I guess cost of living factors in here somewhere.

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Remeber also, that in many resturants, the money you tip a waiter he/she in turns uses that to tip out busboys, hostesses and service bartenders. To illustrate, If I work a dinner shift and have about $1000 in total food/bev sales, If you take the avg 15% I would net about $150 in tips. The following breakdown then occurs:

Total Tips= $150
Tipout to Hostess= $12.50
Tipout to service bartender= $15.00
Tipout to busboy= $10.00
Tipout to foodrunner= $10.00
Tipout to crewchief (Back of the house, ensures restocking of cups, plates, dressings etc...) $10.00

Net Tips= $92.50

So as you can see, a waiter/waitress generally only recieves about 60-65 % of a tip. So on a hundred dollar check, If you only tip $10, the server will get about $4 dollars of it. Ifyou don't tip at all, the server actually loses about $6. Not to mention the taxes thet pay on it.

Just thought it would make it a bit easier to understand for everybody. It may not be exactly like this everywhere, but I would assume that to some degree it is.

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I work at CC's Coffee we have a tip jar and it's a good thing too, my paycheck is so lousy and I'm pulling like 26 hours/week (which will be easier to do now that I'm finished with high school). Tips come out to be like half of my salary, and I only get like $50 in tips a week. That's not so hot. Anyway the tips are distributed to all employees depending on their hours worked, I think it's definately a good thing--espresso bars aren't always as easy as they may seem especially in the mornings when everyone simply must have their fix As far as waiters/waitresses I always tip, even moreso being in a position where I receive tips.

btw friends don't let friends drink Starbucks

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He he, starbucks... the 93 octane of coffee!!!

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