This was just kind of creepy.

[U2democrat]

I was going through the FYM archives reading my posts as U2andPolitix reading stuff that I wrote, promoting a Kerry/Edwards ticket all the way back in January of last year, and people's reactions to it. It just seems like so long ago now, but it was only a year ago. But that era is over, and it's time for us Democrats to move on to a new era, if you haven't already.

 

[pax]

Obama era

 

[the tourist]

Yep, guess so.

 

[U2democrat]

Obama era

 

[all_i_want]

do you really think US could elect an african-american president at this time? in one episode in simpsons some republicans were getting ready for an election 'a gay president in 2084' ... i dont think an african-american president is likely to be elected for a long time.. but thats just my opinion

 

[U2democrat]

I'm pulling for my governor, Mark Warner in 2008, and my dream ticket would be Warner/Obama. As for an actual african american president anytime soon, I can only hope there will be one in my lifetime.

 

[pax]

Well, by "Obama era" I don't just mean Obama himself, as he has repeatedly said he will not even consider running for President in '08. I mean a more progressive, optimistic, inclusive Democratic party, infused with more people like Barack Obama and fewer people like Joe Lieberman. (Not that I'm knocking Lieberman, I don't have anything personal against him...I was just trying to think of someone who was the total opposite of Obama.)

 

[U2democrat]

We've just gotta hope he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

Given that Obama is already the bigshot for the dems, I would not be surprised if he ran for president by 2012 - he will probably get a ton of pressure to run in 2008. I'm sure that the dems want some new faces to represent them, such as Obama. They need a young, energetic, and optimistic leader to get back on top. If Obama plays his cards right, the democrats could have their most impressive leader since John F. Kennedy.

 

[U2democrat]

2008 is too soon. Depending on who runs and who wins in 2008 will determine his future runs, obviously. Though 2012 and beyond I would say he has good chances.

 

[ImOuttaControl]

Given that Obama is already the bigshot for the dems, I would not be surprised if he ran for president by 2012 - he will probably get a ton of pressure to run in 2008. I'm sure that the dems want some new faces to represent them, such as Obama. They need a young, energetic, and optimistic leader to get back on top. If Obama plays his cards right, the democrats could have their most impressive leader since John F. Kennedy.

The only problem is that everybody is putting the cart before the horse with Obama. Sure, he's a great speaker...But I keep thinking whenever people talk about him that "the guy hasn't even done anything yet!" Perhaps he will do great things, but I wouldn't be so quick to christen him as the bigshot of the democratic party quite yet. His actions in the next few years will be the determining factor in whether he's a rising star.

 

[drhark]

Wow..... you've got all your hopes pinned on one dude who's served a few days in the US Senate and gave one good speech. What does that say about your party? Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Lucky for us your party still belongs to the Clintons who are trying to keep it from the Michael Moore /Howard Dean kooks. Good Luck! You guys run on Cults of Personality and we'll run on big ideas.

 

[U2democrat]

Don't minimize him to just a freshman senator. He has done great things for the state of Illinois too.

 

[pax]

Drhark, I see that you're new here, but we really prefer that people try to discuss things with a bit more civility in FYM.

Thanks for coming by!

 

[verte76]

Obama era

Yeah, he can show us the way.

 

[verte76]

Don't minimize him to just a freshman senator. He has done great things for the state of Illinois too.

I'm not familiar with his record in Illinois, but every politician has to start somewhere. Some of them started with the local city council, the school board or the PTA, and the most capable of them end up getting elected to the Senate and such. Obama has been elected to the Senate. This is no mean accomplishment. Of course it means he hasn't actually been a U.S. Senator and he needs to get a record. He's inexperienced right now, but he can play a part in the 2008 campaign and run his own campaign in 2012.

 

[LoveTown]

Obama!!! Gosh I hope he has a stellar future ahead of him. I hope that some day our country will be progressive enough to elect him president.

 

[BVS]

Wow..... you've got all your hopes pinned on one dude who's served a few days in the US Senate and gave one good speech. What does that say about your party? Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Lucky for us your party still belongs to the Clintons who are trying to keep it from the Michael Moore /Howard Dean kooks. Good Luck! You guys run on Cults of Personality and we'll run on big ideas.

Big ideas? Please tell me what your leader good ole W did before his presidency that made him such a leader? I mean besides out drink everyone, ride daddy's coat tails, run every business venture into the ground, or leave the state of TX in worse shape then he got it.

You're right Obama's no W.

 

[U2democrat]

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

He does have cute dogs, you gotta give him that

 

[U2democrat]

gotta love the scotties.

 

[Macfistowannabe]

The only problem is that everybody is putting the cart before the horse with Obama. Sure, he's a great speaker...But I keep thinking whenever people talk about him that "the guy hasn't even done anything yet!" Perhaps he will do great things, but I wouldn't be so quick to christen him as the bigshot of the democratic party quite yet. His actions in the next few years will be the determining factor in whether he's a rising star.

You're right, he hasn't done jack crap yet, but if Clinton or Obama are not bigshots in the Democratic Party, jeez... who is? Teresa Heinz Kerry?

 

[indra]

Big ideas? Please tell me what your leader good ole W did before his presidency that made him such a leader? I mean besides out drink everyone, ride daddy's coat tails, run every business venture into the ground, or leave the state of TX in worse shape then he got it.

You're right Obama's no W.

I was just thinking that myself. I guess it all depends on what you consider a big idea. I know that what some people consider a "big idea" I consider a brain fart (not naming names or anything though ).

 

[drhark]

I know W and I are just simpletons, but by big ideas I mean things like freedom. The alternative to freedom in the Middle East is the status quo which is unacceptable. W had the balls to break the status Quo post 9/11. Yes, there is the prospect of failure but I hope to God there isn't and so should you. Personally I bet on the desire of most people to be free and live in peace. But that's just the secular humanist in me.

P.S. I know W only had a term and a half before being elected. But he wasn't being touted as the savior of the party after a single speech at a convention. This was the point I was making about Obama.

 

[U2democrat]

W still isn't being touted as the savior of the party.......

 

[drhark]

Correct. The ideas of the party are what keeps winning elections. Clinton was a great personality and was elected despite the ideas of the Democratic Party

 

[U2democrat]

Clinton.

 

[FullonEdge2]

Correct. The ideas of the party are what keeps winning elections. Clinton was a great personality and was elected despite the ideas of the Democratic Party

Correct. The only way Democrats can succeed in winning presidential elections these days is selecting "personalities" rather than people of their word. Mainstream America is still afraid of what a mainline Democrat would do to the country.

 

[U2democrat]

LIBERALS!

 

[FullonEdge2]

LIBERALS!

exactly!!