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Instead of trying to promote peace, Palestinians and other middle eastern groups show nothing but hatred. Look at these animated cartoons they show on TV for Children to watch.

http://memritv.org

then do search. Select country (Iran). Subject Jihad and Terrorism

press search and you should see the cartoon. Sorry I tried to make it easier for you all to see.
 
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The link is working now. Yes, this is disturbing. Looks like material used to brainwash kids. The heading on the linked page says it's from Iranian TV. This is all we need - a generation bred on hate for the West with new nuclear toys. :no:
 
Unlike here, where children are never brainwashed by ideologically-motivated parents and teachers.

Aren't we lucky we're not Arabs?

Okay, sorry for the sarcasm, because it is fundamentalism of *all kinds* that makes the world a scary place.

Anu
 
Yesterday someone asked me why can the Greeks and the Turks more or less live peacefully beside each other, and agree to disagree on crucial stuff like Cyprus, but the Palestinians, Iranians, and Israelis don't? I couldn't answer her question.
 
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Justin24 said:
Instead of trying to promote peace, Palestinians and other middle eastern groups show nothing but hatred. Look at these animated cartoons they show on TV for Children to watch.

http://memritv.org

then do search. Select country (Iran). Subject Jihad and Terrorism

press search and you should see the cartoon. Sorry I tried to make it easier for you all to see.


Yeah, it would be interesting to hear some thought on why some Palestinians still call for the destruction of Israel.

And why they promote and fester this hatred.

One historical fact: There has never been a state called Palestine.

A good question: Why have other Arab countries denied the Palestinians from settling in their countries?
 
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the iron horse said:
A good question: Why have other Arab countries denied the Palestinians from settling in their countries?

Or, provide meaningful financial aid (beyond families of suicide bombers).

Since many have suggested that poverty leads to terrorism, it is quite possible that other Arab countries keep the Palestinians poor so they can have foot soldiers in the battle with Israel.
 
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the iron horse said:
A good question: Why have other Arab countries denied the Palestinians from settling in their countries?

A better question: Why has the United States denied Canadians from settling in its country?

Just as there isn't common solidarity amongst white people, there isn't common solidarity amongst Arabs.

Melon
 
:scratch: I don't see what the linked clips have to show about Palestinians or any other Arabs for that matter, since they're from an Iranian government-run TV station.
the iron horse said:
A good question: Why have other Arab countries denied the Palestinians from settling in their countries?
Actually Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia are all home to several hundred thousand Palestinian refugees and their children, and Egypt to about 70,000. And more than 2.5 million Palestinian refugees and their children live in Jordan. It's true that only Jordan has extended them permanent full citizenship, although in the other countries they can hold work permits etc., and most have long since been moved out of refugee camps and into regular housing.

By comparison to other refugee-deluged countries around the world, there is nothing particularly unusual about how the neighboring Arab countries have handled this situation. Most countries tend to balk at taking in, let alone permanently accommodating, large numbers of refugees from strife-ridden neighboring countries--because they fear "spillover" instability (which Jordan and Lebanon have seen lots of), because they fear economic drain, because they are loath to be seen as implicitly accepting responsibility for another state's internal problems, etc. etc.
One historical fact: There has never been a state called Palestine.
By this logic, most all present-day Arab countries--not to mention scores of other states elsewhere, whose borders were arbitrarily created by European bureaucrats and their local-elite cronies as the colonial era ground to a close--are illegitimate too. It's the rare nation-state that can claim to be based on any consistently endorsed "national" identity stretching back over centuries.
 
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yolland said:
By this logic, most all present-day Arab countries--not to mention scores of other states elsewhere, whose borders were arbitrarily created by European bureaucrats and their local-elite cronies as the colonial era ground to a close--are illegitimate too. It's the rare nation-state that can claim to be based on any consistently endorsed "national" identity stretching back over centuries.



you know, like Iraq.
 
nbcrusader said:
But, there already is a Canada.

And just about every Arab country trumpets an independent Palestine.

Amazing what needs to be spelled out for some people.
 
Anu said:
Unlike here, where children are never brainwashed by ideologically-motivated parents and teachers.

Aren't we lucky we're not Arabs?


umm, neither are Iranians......
 
cardosino said:
Amazing what needs to be spelled out for some people.

You're right. Like the fact that it's an analogy over the fact that Americans have as much love for Canada as Jordan, Egypt, Syria, etc. have for the Palestinian Territories. So why would they suddenly give up on Palestine and take in everybody? Such asinine logic.

But it's just like neo-cons to fixate on unimportant details rather than the whole point of the analogy in the first place. Who the fuck cares if Canada is a country and the Palestinian Territories aren't yet?

It really is quite amazing what needs to be spelled out for some people.

Melon
 
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melon said:


You're right. Like the fact that it's an analogy over the fact that Americans have as much love for Canada as Jordan, Egypt, Syria, etc. have for the Palestinian Territories. So why would they suddenly give up on Palestine and take in everybody? Such asinine logic.

And yet these countries will practially weep publically about the plight of the poor Palestinians against the evil that is Israel, of course you'd need to be paying attention to know that.
 
cardosino said:
And yet these countries will practially weep publically about the plight of the poor Palestinians against the evil that is Israel, of course you'd need to be paying attention to know that.

Like we weeped about the plight of the poor Iraqis? Why didn't we just take them all in if we felt so sorry for them? Instead, we sent in our full military might to "liberate" them. I'm sure the U.S. would be just "overjoyed" if Middle Eastern nations followed our example there.

To be blunt, what planet are you living on to think that anyone would just cede all their territory in a conflict? We can't even cede military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan until some arbitary sense of "victory," so why do you think that Arab nations are going to just flat out give up and cede victory to Israel, their sworn enemy? Would we just decide one day to let all the Iraqis live in America and give the remaining territory to Iran?

I guess neo-cons and logic are a contradiction in terms.

Melon
 

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