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Old 02-22-2006, 09:09 PM   #16
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I prefer men with their clothes on as well.........as deep so perfectly demonstrated.....
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I am all for this:
just to play devil's advocate for a second...

wouldn't widespread dissemination of this type of media ultimately lead to the objectification of the male body, thus creating an artificial stereotype of beauty that very few of us can actually compare to? we've seen this happen with female models and young women.
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wouldn't widespread dissemination of this type of media ultimately lead to the objectification of the male body,.........
yeah yeah

Where are more pictures of men in their underpants?













But maybe if men are finally forced to come to terms with something women have dealt with for centuries, maybe they can facilitate a change. It's happened before. When men finally get a taste of what women go through, they get all huffy and change it.
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But maybe if men are finally forced to come to terms with something women have dealt with for centuries, maybe they can facilitate a change. It's happened before. When men finally get a taste of what women go through, they get all huffy and change it.


trust me when i say that i know exactly what that's like for a girl -- i totally have a distorted view of my body.

but i still enjoy pictures of idealized, impossible-to-attain-through-legal-methods pictures of men.

so, thank goodness for Abercrombie!

(and i was in their obnoxious new chain Ruehl last weekend, and omg, ladies and Melon, it is smoking in there )
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But maybe if men are finally forced to come to terms with something women have dealt with for centuries, maybe they can facilitate a change. It's happened before. When men finally get a taste of what women go through, they get all huffy and change it.
believe it or not there are already some of us who view objectification and fetishism to be problems within society.
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so, thank goodness for Abercrombie!
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Lovely, to see that the progressives and religious can get together on serious issues like people showing skin.
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Lovely, to see that the progressives and religious can get together on serious issues like people showing skin.
you're making even less sense than usual.
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not the clothes! the models! the models!
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Objectivism and fetishism are not problems within society - I do not see any problem with people acting as they please or people being in some way gratified by other peoples dress or behaviour. Same goes for pictures of naked men, not my cup of tea but I am not going to take my uncomfortable reaction and proceed upon a crusade against pictures of naked men.

Now this is not you but pushed to limits you do see opposition to things such as prostitution and pornography from both religious forces who see it as immoral and some progressive forces who see it as exploitative of women.

People get paid money to show off their bodies, people pay money to gratify themselves with pictures and videos of this. Provided nobody is being forced to do things against their will or having their rights violated there should is nothing wrong with that. The morality police can fuck off and leave the rest be.
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Objectivism and fetishism are not problems within society - I do not see any problem with people acting as they please or people being in some way gratified by other peoples dress or behaviour. Same goes for pictures of naked men, not my cup of tea but I am not going to take my uncomfortable reaction and proceed upon a crusade against pictures of naked men.

Now this is not you but pushed to limits you do see opposition to things such as prostitution and pornography from both religious forces who see it as immoral and some progressive forces who see it as exploitative of women.

People get paid money to show off their bodies, people pay money to gratify themselves with pictures and videos of this. Provided nobody is being forced to do things against their will or having their rights violated there should is nothing wrong with that.
i couldn't care less what people get off to in their spare time. anything goes as far as i'm concerned as long as adults are consenting, etc. (with the exception of children - call me a fascist bootlicker if you must).

my problem, and perhaps my clarity was lacking, is with a media creation of the archetype of beauty being a specific physical speciman that very few individuals are capable of imitating. i think the damage done to the psyche of young women over the years has been well documented and often discussed.

that said, i am in no way looking to censor skin.
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I would counter by arguing that social pressures and the idealised form of impossible beauty trancend culture and civilization. That even in the absence of the mass media the same mental illnesses that lead to disorders

Depicting idealised beauty in painting, sculpture or in magazines and films with models and actors is a form of cultural expression. One that I think has an important place in the society and should exist freely.
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I would counter by arguing that social pressures and the idealised form of impossible beauty trancend culture and civilization. That even in the absence of the mass media the same mental illnesses that lead to disorders

Depicting idealised beauty in painting, sculpture or in magazines and films with models and actors is a form of cultural expression. One that I think has an important place in the society and should exist freely.
wasn't ancient "impossible beauty" much more in line with the actual female body? i'm thinking of greek sculpture/art here. i seem to recall women with hips, thighs, and full figures...images that the majority of women could relate to.

what the individual deems to be his or her personal idealized beauty is a matter of preference and taste. it seems to me that if society as a whole is to offer up some sort of overarching image there should be an open discourse as to what/why that is.
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