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Old 06-13-2005, 08:28 PM   #286
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I also don't think "pro-baby killer" is an appropriate label even if used in an "ironic" sense.
Then you just don't get what I'm saying. And to respect the ever-in-flux nature of this dynamic conversation, I will spend no more time on it.
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Sorry, but I have a background in philosophy
What, may I ask, constitutes a "background"?

I have a degree in the subject myself.
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What, may I ask, constitutes a "background"?

I have a degree in the subject myself.
A degree as well.
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OK, I'll stick with arrogance, and you stick with intolerance.

I guess that's how we'll proceed here...

are you still under the impression that you've made some kind of impressive argument?

where's the intolerance of the anti-choice label? as i view the issue, it centers around whether or not abortion should be a legal procedure. i support the right of a woman to be able to choose whether or not she wants to have an abortion. i also know many people who would never have an abortion themselves, who would try to talk someone out of having an abortion, but still believe it should remain legal and that women should retain their right to choose. hence, once is pro- or anti- the right to choose the procedure. it's an accurate response to one who claims to be "pro-life" but, really, they're simply pro-birth, unless you're going to start arguing for universal health care, universal pre-natal care, comprehensive sex education, free birth control, guaranteed housing as well as access to quality counseling, day care, and even parenting classes.
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are you still under the impression that you've made some kind of impressive argument?
No, when did I say that?

I told you earlier that we don't prefer to be called "anti-choice." You essentially said, "Screw you, I'll call you what I want."

Sorry for calling that intolerance.
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I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't make you exactly special here. Many have backgrounds in philosophy and we discuss damn near anything. But people who come in and pitch hissy fits don't get listened to very often. Might be worth remembering if you choose to stay.
Does "you are the type of Christian who makes me want to vomit" qualify as a hissy fit, or is that just plain meanness?
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A degree as well.
Where did you study? What was your specialty?

My thesis was on feminist and existentialist ethics. I miss those days.
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No, when did I say that?
You implied it, of course.

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Not the first time I've silenced someone from the pro-baby killing crowd.
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Oh, duh, here I am having a chat about philosophy and not noticing that this thread has totally derailed into name-calling and bringing stuff up that happened a million years ago.

Sorry about that.

OneBadStay, if you want to reminisce about philosophy, my e-mail address is in my sig.
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No, when did I say that?

I told you earlier that we don't prefer to be called "anti-choice." You essentially said, "Screw you, I'll call you what I want."

Sorry for calling that intolerance.

wow. aren't you unpleasant?

firstly, you complained that you had shot down pro-choice people all the time, and that you were used to them not being able to respond to your deft arguments.

clearly, that's not the case.

as for anti-choice, what i did was offer you an explanation as to why i prefer to outline the issue as one centered around the idea of choice. i don't care if you object, you're free to do so, but don't tell me that all i offered you was a "shut up" argument when i just spent a paragraph detailing my position (as you seem to want). that's not at all intolerance -- in fact, i did exactly what you wanted: i engaged you in a debate, and you turn around and whine about people being intolerant.

where i went to college, we were evaluated on the quality of our arguments and our ability to respond to questions and critiques.
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