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Old 06-13-2005, 08:06 PM   #271
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Not the first time I've silenced someone from the pro-baby killing crowd.
See, the problem with this kind of stuff is, you just damage your own cause and make it more difficult for people like 80sU2isbest and others, including myself, to argue the case against abortion.

In other words, you make the pro-life people look bad.
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i have to admit, i respect an ego.

you've silence no one, dear.

we've moved on.
Moved on? Uhhh...no.

More like avoided the conversation when points came up that you could neither acknowledge nor refute and then came back well later in the discussion to declare it "over."

It's happened before. I'm used to it.

I certainly don't expect martha back to refute my scientifically-backed claim that the DNA mismatch between the mother and the preborn baby renders her whole (outdated) "it's my body" argument invalid. She'll claim that she's "moved on" as well. (The best concession I can ever usually expect.)
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Moved on? Uhhh...no.

More like avoided the conversation when points came up that you could neither acknowledge nor refute and then came back well later in the discussion to declare it "over."

It's happened before. I'm used to it.

I certainly don't expect martha back to refute my scientifically-backed claim that the DNA mismatch between the mother and the preborn baby renders her whole (outdated) "it's my body" argument invalid. She'll claim that she's "moved on" as well. (The best concession I can ever usually expect.)


just how is the view from up there?
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See, the problem with this kind of stuff is, you just damage your own cause and make it more difficult for people like 80sU2isbest and others, including myself, to argue the case against abortion.

In other words, you make the pro-life people look bad.
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Go back and re-read the parenthetical that you, for some reason, omitted when you quoted me. You clearly missed the irony of my post that you quoted above.
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Go back and re-read the parenthetical that you, for some reason, omitted when you quoted me. You clearly missed the irony of my post that you quoted above.
I didn't see any parentheses. Where are they? I must be blind.
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just how is the view from up there?
Wow. This is some of the piss-poorest debating I've ever seen...

What a letdown this board is...
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Same old lines?

Seems like you can't counter what I've said. Not the first time I've silenced someone from the pro-baby killing crowd. (Keep using the intolerant, offensive, and incorrect "anti-choice" label, and maybe I'll just make up my own ridiculous labels for you, also. OK?)

Or maybe you probably haven't even read my posts and are confusing me with someone else.
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See above. I tried more than once earlier in this thread to point out the fact that "anti-choice" is an inappropriate label for those of us who oppose abortion on moral grounds. It seems that some still weren't getting the memo, so I used the equally inappropriate term "pro-baby killer" to make the same point in a new way.
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Wow. This is some of the piss-poorest debating I've ever seen...

What a letdown this board is...


it sounds like you're upset that the whole thread isn't revolving around your specific posts. that's understandable.

since you've only posted 30ish times, i assume you haven't yet come around to the fact that most of these discussions are dynamic and they shift, and often very relevant, intelligent posts go unresponded to simply because the conversation itself has moved on to other topics. these are rich areas for discussion, and abortion is no different, so for you to continually harp on the "baby killer!" argument isn't a way to keep people engaged for very long.

as i said, most of us have heard it -- that goes for pro- and anti-choice people alike -- and you're not telling us anything new, despite your "scientifically backed" (!!!) evidence. so, instead of complaining that the conversation hasn't suited your needs, why don't you try to adapt to how the conversation is evolving?

it's obvious you feel very strongly, and i'm always happy to hear a strong view, because i admire passion (just take a look at any gay-related posts and you'll see where i get passionate).

however, the working assumption that, because no one has responded to you, specifically, means that no one *can* respond to you is hugely false, and hugely arrogant.
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Yes, well, we have a door and you're welcome to use it.
Sorry, but I have a background in philosophy, and we were always mixing it up with each other on all kinds of issues. And you had to stay on point instead of disappearing for a while and then coming back with some lame personal attacks like "how's the view from up there?". That's just what I'm used to.

I guess that just makes people uncomfortable around here...
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See above. I tried more than once earlier in this thread to point out the fact that "anti-choice" is an inappropriate label for those of us who oppose abortion on moral grounds. It seems that some still weren't getting the memo, so I used the equally inappropriate term "pro-baby killer" to make the same point in a new way.
I am anti-abortion in the majority of cases, I also don't think "pro-baby killer" is an appropriate label even if used in an "ironic" sense.
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I guess that just makes people uncomfortable around here...
Ehhm, how's the view from up there?
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however, the working assumption...is hugely false, and hugely arrogant.
OK, I'll stick with arrogance, and you stick with intolerance.

I guess that's how we'll proceed here...
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Sorry, but I have a background in philosophy
I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't make you exactly special here. Many have backgrounds in philosophy and we discuss damn near anything. But people who come in and pitch hissy fits don't get listened to very often. Might be worth remembering if you choose to stay.
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I sometimes wonder if people cruise the Internet looking for random debates on abortion to get involved in.
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