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Old 04-28-2005, 11:03 AM   #16
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I don't really think there is a case to defend, is there? As Macfisto pointed out, the man seems quite insane.
The Republican Party will certainly defend it. If it's anti-gay, the GOP will push for it like a lapdog for the Christian Coalition, or, as I put it, the "Coalition of the Insane."

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let's remember -- THIS IS NOT (just) A GAY ISSUE.

this is about the encroachment of a specific kind of politicized interpretation of Christianity. we have every right to view this as a threat to the essence of the nation, and it is our duty as citizens to fight it wherever we find it.
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On a side note, has anyone seen The Laramie Project, the play the author is referring to at the opening of the article? My (Catholic) college performed it a couple of months back, and I cried a lot. It's a really beautiful piece of work. And one that does an excellent job of examining how the same town that produced Matthew Shepard's murderers also produced many of his best friends.
I haven't seen that, no. But I remember seeing an MTV documentary type thingy a few years back about the whole incident. Man....

My dad's told me that every time the whole Matthew Shepard thing is brought up here in Wyoming, everyone here gets really tense about it, as they'd like to remind everyone that not everybody here thought that what those people did to Matthew was good.

Also, while I'm not gay, I do understand somewhat where melon's coming from in the sense that I'm sick to death of hearing stories like what the guy in Alabama's doing, too, just 'cause I know how irritating this is to gay people. Why don't people like this guy in Alabama realize how much they're hurting people by doing things like this?. You're right, though, pax, thankfully, not everyone in Alabama supports what this guy's doing. Hopefully there'll be a big protest against this guy's efforts.

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Old 04-28-2005, 11:46 AM   #19
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Re: THEOCRACY WATCH! Republicans believe government must "protect our souls"

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Alabama Bill Targets Gay Authors
MONTGOMERY, Ala., April 27, 2005

"I don't look at it as censorship," says State Representative Gerald Allen. "I look at it as protecting the hearts and souls and minds of our children."

not censorship? please.

this protectionist attitude about keeping pure the minds of our innocent children is crap. this has nothing to do with protecting children or anyone else--it's state-sponsored blatant discrimination against homosexuality. what affect will that have on children?
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Will Tchaichovsky CD's now be banned as he was gay??
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Old 04-28-2005, 11:55 AM   #21
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Better toss out most of Kant's writings, since many scholars suspect he was a deeply closeted gay man.
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also, no more elton john records.
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Will Tchaichovsky CD's now be banned as he was gay??


this might be hard ... does the music actively promote a homosexual lifestyle?

symphonies, no, those are safely heterosexual. but if Tchaichovsky wrote any operas, or god forbid hummable showtunes, then those would most assuredly be banned.
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not censorship? please.

this protectionist attitude about keeping pure the minds of our innocent children is crap. this has nothing to do with protecting children or anyone else--it's state-sponsored blatant discrimination against homosexuality. what affect will that have on children?
. Honestly, my parents must be a very odd kind, then, 'cause I was raised to believe discrimination against others was wrong. I'd like to know when the memo came in that passing the concept of discrimination on to children was a good thing.

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Really? This law might not be so nutty after all, then.

They'd also have to ban George Michael, Rufus Wainwright, Queen, R.E.M, and pretty much a half of the music industry.

He'd also have to get rid of the writings of John Maynard Keynes, E.M. Forster and Henry James, not to mention Vita Sackville West or Lytton Strachey and Virginia Woolf, though he doesn't strike me to be much of a literary man to begin with, anyway.

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I honestly don't see how reading books about the gay lifestyle or books written by gays promotes homosexuality. Anyone who believes this is simply stupid.
I am not gay but I am educated enough to know you don't become gay by reading a book.
This is about more than the homosexual lifestyle, it is about the gov. controlling freedom of choice.
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If you count bisexuals, that also tosses out Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre. There's also some speculation that Lord Byron may have, in between his (alleged) thousands of dalliances with women, had a few encounters of the same-sex kind. And this from the man who gave us "She Walks in Beauty"!

And let's not forget Michel Foucault, a gay philosopher and cultural theorist. (He was actually, I think, the only well-known philosopher to die of AIDS. It was sad.)
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Shame on you people.


This man and his ilk are just practicing their religion.

They have a right to speak about "their values".

The President won a "mandate" because of "values voters" like these people.

If they can pass these laws they must be enforced.

Christians have earned their right to cozy up to the lunch counter.

Learn to live with it.
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The President won a "mandate" because of "values voters" like these people.
Heh. Man-date. Aren't those what the Republicans are trying to stop?

But yeah, that Alabama guy's nutty. To put it into internet lingo: WTF?!?
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Heh. Man-date. Aren't those what the Republicans are trying to stop?
says who?



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