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Old 07-19-2005, 09:14 AM   #1
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THEOCACY WATCH: Rep. Tancredo, R-CO: "...take out their holy sites"

Congressman suggests way to retaliate for nuclear terror

Spokesman: Tancredo was speaking hypothetically

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- A Colorado congressman told a radio show host that the U.S. could "take out" Islamic holy sites if Muslim fundamentalist terrorists attacked the country with nuclear weapons.

Rep. Tom Tancredo made his remarks Friday on WFLA-AM in Orlando, Florida. His spokesman stressed he was only speaking hypothetically.

Talk show host Pat Campbell asked the Littleton Republican how the country should respond if terrorists struck several U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.

"Well, what if you said something like -- if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites," Tancredo answered.

"You're talking about bombing Mecca," Campbell said.

"Yeah," Tancredo responded.

The congressman later said he was "just throwing out some ideas" and that an "ultimate threat" might have to be met with an "ultimate response."

Spokesman Will Adams said Sunday the four-term congressman doesn't support threatening holy Islamic sites but that Tancredo was grappling with the hypothetical situation of a terrorist strike deadlier than the September 11, 2001, attacks.

"We have an enemy with no uniform, no state, who looks like you and me and only emerges right before an attack. How do we go after someone like that?" Adams said.

"What is near and dear to them? They're willing to sacrifice everything in this world for the next one. What is the pressure point that would deter them from their murderous impulses?" he said.

Tancredo is known in the House for his tough stand on immigration.

Mohammad Noorzai, coordinator of the Colorado Muslim Council and a native of Afghanistan, said Tancredo's remarks were radical and unrepresentative but that people in Tancredo's position need to watch their words when it comes to sacred religious sites and texts.

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Again, where do we get the theocracy?
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Again, where do we get the theocracy?


Holy War mentality.

if they bomb our country, we blow up their religious sits. note that he doesn't want to bomb, say, Riyadh. he wants to nuke Mecca.

big symbolic difference.
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^ Agree. I don't know Rep. Tancredo, and this article doesn't reveal any religous beliefs he might have. I doubt highly that he's Muslim, but he could be an agnostic or atheist.
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^ Agree. I don't know Rep. Tancredo, and this article doesn't reveal any religous beliefs he might have. I doubt highly that he's Muslim, but he could be an agnostic or atheist.
Exactly.
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^ Agree. I don't know Rep. Tancredo, and this article doesn't reveal any religous beliefs he might have. I doubt highly that he's Muslim, but he could be an agnostic or atheist.


aside from the utter insanity of bombing a country for the acts of terrorists who do not act in the interests of their nation states, why would you attack Mecca and not Riyadh unless the point was religion?
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The "point" is the attempt to hurt the "enemy". Tancredo has built in a couple of assumptions that would make this unfeasible.

The military value of Mecca is negligble and would create more problems than it solves. That's why Tancredo is a Congressman, not a General.
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aside from the utter insanity of bombing a country for the acts of terrorists who do not act in the interests of their nation states, why would you attack Mecca and not Riyadh unless the point was religion?

this is one person
but he is a u s congressman
that represents this country
this is terrible

Irvine,

the fact that many don't seemed to "get it" is amazing.
this adds fuel to the argument that it is a war on Islam
a 'crusade" in the worst sense of the word.
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The "point" is the attempt to hurt the "enemy". Tancredo has built in a couple of assumptions that would make this unfeasible.

The military value of Mecca is negligble and would create more problems than it solves. That's why Tancredo is a Congressman, not a General.

in the view of this congressmen, the "enemy" is Islam itself.
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this adds fuel to the argument that it is a war on Islam
a 'crusade" in the worst sense of the word.


precisely.

and there's an assumption, too, in his statement -- if "we" are crusading against Islam, what religion, then, is the USA fighting for?
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Ah, Tancredo.

He is an egotistical wacko. I'm not sure anyone in Colorado likes him, he's always embarressing us with comments on immigration or religion.

He plans on running for the presidency. He's declared that a number of times. He thinks so highly of himself it's disgusting.
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in the view of this congressmen, the "enemy" is Islam itself.
Exactly and this idea runs rampant through this entire forum, not just FYM, of course many do well in thinking they disguise it.
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Tancredo has voiced what I have often felt in my weakest moments. Moments of fear and hatred. Moments of seeking revenge and inflicting pain. Moments when I turn away from the hard choice to follow my faith or not.

Moments like the morning of the London bombings.

Dammit and I am wrong, of course.

I can only hope that the Muslim world that does NOT subscribe to the Islamists will someday say "Enough!"... and will make a difference.
While I know that many Muslims are active in opposing the Islamists (like the many Gov't Officials that are being slaughtered daily in Baghdad), I can't help but think, "Where are the other billion voices??".

And I remember how I sat on my hands as Iran and Iraq sent their young men against each other to slaughter each other for ten years.

there are no answers, are there?
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while I agree this is a misguided view, I don't think it implies he's a Christian fundamentalist. like nbcrusader said, he's not a military general, and there's a reason for it.
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And I remember how I sat on my hands as Iran and Iraq sent their young men against each other to slaughter each other for ten years.


really?

i recall many clapping and dancing

as we suppiled Iraq with arms
to offset the arms we had sold to Iran ( Shah Reza)
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