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Old 06-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #16
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If I were McCain I would use this story to my benefit. I would use it to contrast myself with GWB.

PRESS RELEASE: Unlike our current president, when I find myself in a less than desirable situation, I am willing to quickly cut my loses and move onto better ideas. I promise the moment I believe there is a better place to waste our countries resources, I will drop this Iraq war and move on.

I'm John McCain and I approve this message.
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^ You win.
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If you call your wife a cunt when you argue with her, then yes, you have a problem.
Unless, of course, she's being a cunt. Then you're forthright.
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Unless, of course, she's being a cunt. Then you're forthright.

No. You're still an asshole.
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No. You're still an asshole.
I you.
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No. You're still an asshole.
Well cunts and assholes are never that far apart.
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If I were McCain I would use this story to my benefit. I would use it to contrast myself with GWB.

PRESS RELEASE: Unlike our current president, when I find myself in a less than desirable situation, I am willing to quickly cut my loses and move onto better ideas. I promise the moment I believe there is a better place to waste our countries resources, I will drop this Iraq war and move on.

I'm John McCain and I approve this message.
Real men know when to pull out?
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Real men know when to pull out?


That should be his campaign slogan
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In 1979, John McCain came face to face with his future. He was in Hawaii, attending a military reception. While there, he met a young, blond former cheerleader from Phoenix named Cindy Hensley. McCain was immediately dazzled and spent the event chatting her up. "She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident," McCain wrote in his 2002 book, Worth the Fighting For. "I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."

McCain recalls that both he and Cindy initially misled each other about their ages. McCain made himself a little younger, and Cindy made herself a little older. They found out their real ages when the local paper published them. McCain was 43, Cindy 25. "So our marriage," McCain cracks, "is really based on a tissue of lies."

...After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way. McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was separated. After McCain's dramatic homecoming from Vietnam, the couple grew apart. Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs.

...In February 1980, less than a year after he met Cindy, McCain petitioned a Florida court to dissolve his marriage to Carol, calling the union "irretrievably broken." ...In his book Worth the Fighting For, McCain offers his own post-mortem on his failed marriage. He "had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life" as he had to excel in his naval career. "Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite," McCain wrote. "But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."

Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband, generally has avoided reporters interested in hearing her side of the story. She did briefly address her divorce to Timberg: "The breakup of our marriage was not caused by my accident or Vietnam or any of those things. I don't know that it might not have happened if John had never been gone. I attribute it more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I do to anything else."
Do we really want to get into tarring and feathering people over these kinds of things? Selfish and wrong and irresponsible behavior, absolutely. But he openly acknowledges that, and this was 30 years ago.
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Do we really want to get into tarring and feathering people over these kinds of things? Selfish and wrong and irresponsible behavior, absolutely. But he openly acknowledges that, and this was 30 years ago.
Apparently, though, it's perfectly fine for conservatives to "tar and feather" all they want.

snopes.com: Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?

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According to the Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuassive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal.... the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destory everything. Is it OBAMA??
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Apparently, though, it's perfectly fine for conservatives to "tar and feather" all they want.

snopes.com: Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?
That's one of the most despicable things I've ever read. Those idiots ought to be ashamed of themselves. What sociopathic Phelps family knock-off is responsible for it?
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Bonus points to the individual who spots the faulty logic of that urban legend.
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^There's not a passage in Revelations that says the AntiChrist will be a Muslim in his 40s for starters. Also, there's huge disagreement between those who think it will be an actual person and those who think the description is a metaphor for the attiudes and systems of the world that are contrary to the peaceful, loving, whole attributes of the Kingdom of God. I tend to be a believer of the second category. Nothing enrages me more about the church today than those who pull Revelations and Old Testament scripture out of context to try to connect it to current events. We can't remove these words from the time and space they were written in just to make them say what we want.
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^There's not a passage in Revelations that says the AntiChrist will be a Muslim in his 40s for starters.
Close. Wanna take one more crack at it?
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Muhammad was born in 570 C E

so how could Bible writers even know what a Muslim was?
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