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Old 07-09-2002, 12:21 AM   #1
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the uselessness of nationalism

or nations period.

take the excerpt from john lennons imagine...regarding imagine no countries.

"God bless america"

perhaps the most sickening quote ive heard on a regular basis in my life.

however, i saw a great tshirt recently that read "God is not american."

how true is that?

not a blast on you americans, but rather so many of the politicians that have their heads so far up their asses they couldnt tell you which way is up or which way is down.

*end of vague, unfocused rant
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God Bless North America!

at ease, soldier

if not for nationalism, the Olympics, tennis and the World Cup would be boring

so would sex [shot of baby smiling in back seat]

it all makes sense, and I don't want to be your brother [enjoying a drink now and then], so the nations must stay

that said, I believe I'm a patient, better driver
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yes, i needed that wanderer.
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Pass me that fatty.
When were done w/that can u head or to the Iran/Iraq border and tell them that they're only fighting about a letter..ita a Q or an N..toss a freakin coin and get over it

Dumbasses fighting over a letter..sheesh

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Thank goodness for nationalism. Go pilsing Corea!

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Re: the uselessness of nationalism

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"God is not american."
Agree with that. Never liked the saying 'God bless America'.......
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so would sex [shot of baby smiling in back seat]

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WTF??? Sex would be boring without nations or nationalism???

Enlighten me, soldier!
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Re: the uselessness of nationalism

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however, i saw a great tshirt recently that read "God is not american."

That's because God's a Virginian.

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but rather so many of the politicians that have their heads so far up their asses they couldnt tell you which way is up or which way is down.

Unfocused.. Hahaha.. YEs.. Where the hell did you get politicians from to fit into this little post of yours?.. Completely unrelated.. I just think you wanted to rip on Politicians.. Ok.. fine by me..

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if it wasnt for nations we'd all be one big United States *shudders*
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God bless America does not mean God is American. We're just asking God for a little help in watching over our country.

Interpreting the phrase "God Bless America" as meaning God is American is like saying the phrase "God save the Queen" means the Queen is related to God.
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I could have sworn that I read somewhere recently that God was Brazilian.
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I think most people do not understand exactly what nationalism is. It is much stronger than what you see at a world cup final...nationalism is what caused the extreme tensions in the balkans, the genocide in Rwanda, or the Ethnic Cleansing in Yugoslvia.
It is the desire of a certain ethnic/linguistic group to haves ones own country, no matter what the cost. It the world was decided by Trumans 'Line of national self determination" than there would be double the countries there are now.

We need to distinguish between country and nation they are two different entities.

What we are talking about in this thread is extreme patiotism which is love for ones country.

I think patriotism is great. Theres nothing quite as stirring as seeing the canadian flag flapping in the wind while our beautiful anthem plays. I think true patriotism will create bonds to other countries not seperate them, because as canadians we should want the world to see how great we are and how nice we are and we should treat them likewise.

Nationalism, on the other hand, has created more problems in history than good.
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God bless America does not mean God is American. We're just asking God for a little help in watching over our country.

Interpreting the phrase "God Bless America" as meaning God is American is like saying the phrase "God save the Queen" means the Queen is related to God.
I laso never liked 'God save the Queen' since God shouldn't just help one person or one nation, but the entire world.

God bless the world.
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I laso never liked 'God save the Queen' since God shouldn't just help one person or one nation, but the entire world.

God bless the world.
Isn't it presumptuous to assume "God save the Queen" actually means "God save the Queen and only the Queen"?

I don't that can be reasonably implied.

It would be analogous for condemning a man for praying for the health of his own wife - as if that means he's praying against the health of everyone else.
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