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Old 12-06-2006, 01:33 PM   #1
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The United Kingdom of Canada?

so, what do you think?

alberta has made it clear they want everything quebec is getting out of this newfound "nation" distinction, and obviously all other provinces and territories will follow suit.

are we going to have our own england, wales, scotland, and ireland?

the united kingdom of canada.

this isn't well written, but most of you know what i'm talking about.

what do you think will happen?
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wake up you daft canadians.

i want opinions
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when you look at it like that, seems you lot have real commonwealth-envy!
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we're already in the commonwealth.
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Ireland is not part of the unitied kingdom...shame!
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we're already in the commonwealth.
no part of the US is in the commonwealth, xoomeranger! hahah, nice try!
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anyway, before you turn purple and flip your lid at this derailing; do you see it as a possibility for the future, that this is setting a precedent for independent states or nations?

also, how difficult would it be for this to go beyond a kind of token gesture to something more? is that even what the folk in quebec want?
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:16 AM   #8
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It's just lip service. Provinces will still jockey and whine for more money for provincial budgets as they always do.
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Differentiating between a state and a nation can be difficult...(if that wasn't already obvious)
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no part of the US is in the commonwealth, xoomeranger! hahah, nice try!
i've never been more insulted in my life.

canada vs. america

canada wins EASILY 6 out of 8 times.
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Re: The United Kingdom of Canada?

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alberta has made it clear they want everything quebec is getting out of this newfound "nation" distinction, and obviously all other provinces and territories will follow suit.
my guess is your referring to this quote (bold emphasis mine):

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Stelmach said he had already had a "good long chat" with Prime Minister Stephen Harper and expects his relationship with Ottawa will be a "good one."

"As I said during the campaign I'm one that wants to build relationships," he said.

"As the leader of the province of Alberta I want to work with Stephen Harper and Ottawa to make sure we build even a stronger Canada."

Stelmach wants to create a supplementary Alberta pension plan, similar to Quebec's. He said Monday he'll be watching to ensure that any new powers given to that province are extended to Alberta as well.

"It was very clear during the campaign that I'm going to fight for the same rights and privileges being assigned to this 'nation within a nation.'"

When asked by an audience member about Liberals who "seemed to be plotting the economic raid of Alberta's resources," Stelmach said: "Well, they're going to be dealing with me."
as long as he doesn't ask for nation status--we'd be a nation of rednecks, i suppose, i don't think all provinces having the same rights and privileges is necessarily a bad thing.

in fact, i suspect that having one province set apart as a nation, and whatever else that comes along with that, would do more to fracture canadian unity.

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Re: The United Kingdom of Canada?

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are we going to have our own england, wales, scotland, and ireland?

Oh dear.
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Canada already is a united kingdom. It's a constitutional monarchy with a sovereign as it's head of state, HM the Queen. Originally Canada was going to be known as the Kingdom of Canada but to appease the USA, they went with the Dominion of Canada. Which by the way is still a techinical term for Canada, though certain past governments would let you believe otherwise. See British North America Act/Constitution Act 1982. But nevertheless it's still a kingdom.

Canada is also a federation of provinces(states) with those provinces having quite a bit of power relative to the federal gov't. The Provinces control their own healthcare, education, and welfare with also creating their own taxes. The federal gov't in Ottawa controls defence, federal tax, foreign affairs, transfer payments to each province, etc.

Provinces have their own parliament that is unicameral or has no upper house, it has a Premier that heads the Provincial Gov't and it also has a Lt. Governor that is the Queen's representative for that particular province.

So Canada really is quite similar to the UK in that it has mini-nations that run their own affairs and have a united(federal) gov't managing part of it's operations. And dare I say a couple of those Canadian mini-nations, Quebec and Newfoundland are very culturally different from the rest, like say Scotland or Wales.
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Re: The United Kingdom of Canada?

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what do you think will happen?
I'm not really sure what Harper's "decentralized" Canada would look like but I would definitely be concerned about lower GDP provinces being able to provide adequate social service levels to their people without federal funding coming from richer provinces through transfer payments. Definitely goes againt basic Canadian values.
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