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Old 05-04-2005, 02:48 PM   #46
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You seem to be swinging more than Peter Snow's swingometer now Ant. You say that you look at the polls and then you say that you have no inclination to look at the polls. It's confusing, do you follow them or not?
Sigh. As I said time and time again, I have looked at the polls. I never said otherwise. I said I didn't have the inclination to go looking for them again in order to post them on here as 'factual' evidence, which I was under the impression you wanted. I saw them and saw exactly what you saw; that Lib Dems will lose to the Tories and Labour. Thats all I said or meant to say.

Again, you seem to be getting the wrong end of the stick. My intent was not to trivialise Scotland's devolved parliament in the slightest, I called it a case study in having two parties co-running the country, thats all. Besides, calling something a case study, last time I checked, was not an insult.

And again, if you actually read my post you would see that I freely admit to not knowing how everything is done in Scotland but for a general idea.

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Please read up on your facts anthony before carrying on this discussion. have a good night.
If you do want a discussion, I would kindly ask you to actually read my posts and to keep your cool. You have every right to call me an ignorant and indifferent Englishman who doesn't care how the country's run, but I don't believe I've given you reason to do so.

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Well - i've voted. I hope to wake up 2moro with Mr Howard in charge.
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I actually haven't voted yet. I have to confess I'm finding it very difficult to actually choose today. Not that my vote would count or anyone would care, but I really want to be 100% sure that I made the right decision. Plus, my polling station is twenty seconds away from my house, so I'll probably end up voting at the last minute.




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Vote for labour

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Well - i've voted. I hope to wake up 2moro with Mr Howard in charge.
Bad luck mate!

Been up all night watching (largely a result of my appalling insomnia, but also something to do with having a look at the state of our nation of fools).

I saw 4 Monster Raving Loonies... not to mention Captain Beany, of the New Millennium Bean Party. Sadly, none of them were elcted. I didn't see any of the BNP bastards get in either, thank Christ! I'm hoping that I'm correct there, and didn't just happen to miss one.

I'm glad our idiot MP was forcibly removed by a majority of 8,100. She's in the Health dept so I have very little time for her becuase of current circumstances. Stupid cow. Sadly, we are now lumbered with a *screws up nose in disgust* TORY.

I'm not a hardened leftist, but I find it very hard to respect the Conservative Partry's position after having spend 19 years with them in power. Not that I love Blair.

It's enought to make you long for the return of the Rainbow Party. They wanted to solve pollution in 1997 by making us all bounce around on space hoppers. I also sadly miss Screaming Lord Sutch.

I hate it when people become completely cynical and disillusioned... but am afraid that I have. I threw myself behind the 1997 Labour campaign very enthusiastically, looking down my nose at the cynics and doubters. My excuse is that it was my first election, I was idealistic, 19, and a fool!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...ge/4519347.stm
What a bunch of worthless maggots.
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Oh well....I instead I awoke to the realisation that this country will go further downhill for another 4 years.

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I'm not a hardened leftist, but I find it very hard to respect the Conservative Partry's position after having spend 19 years with them in power. Not that I love Blair.

you find it hard to respect the Tories after 19 years in power yet you apparently voted for New Labour!?!



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Simon Jenkins, The Times:Assuming Labour wins, it will be the seventh victory in a row for Margaret Thatcher. It will deliver her a round 30 years of supremacy over British government, equalling the epoch of Attlee’s welfare socialism after 1945. Labour’s manifesto is a Thatcherite classic: adventurism abroad and progressive privatisation at home, moral partiality bolted on to an ever-expanding nanny State. The consensus is well illustrated in the near-identical proposals for public services from Labour and Conservatives. Both have pandered to middle-class insecurity. They have used fear, crime, discipline and control as leitmotifs and promised to curb civil liberty and make the welfare state increasingly optional. Baroness Thatcher may have disappeared to Venice for the duration, but she can look back on this campaign with pride. She destroyed the Social Democrats, she destroyed old Labour and, in stimulating the creation of new Labour, she has all but destroyed the Tories.
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how many months do we think Blair will last, in light of such a reduced majority?
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Thank goodness for the result, as a Labour Party member I'm actually glad we had a reduced majority........Blair will go, Brown will become PM - happy days.
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I will actually be quite intrested to see what happens when (not if) Brown becomes PM
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I have learned a great deal about the UK elections after reading this thread.
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you find it hard to respect the Tories after 19 years in power yet you apparently voted for New Labour!?!
I really cannot be arsed responding properly to this as it is now 4am - I'll get back to you on it Ewen.

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Thank goodness for the result, as a Labour Party member I'm actually glad we had a reduced majority........Blair will go, Brown will become PM - happy days.
I'm unsure about Brown becoming PM. I agree that it is most definitely time for change, but Brown lacks that charisma which seems to be so vital in attracting a certain amount of floating voters these days. Tony Blair is no bundle of joy, but he still has that certain 'quality' to him. I would like to see Brown in control, but i'm not sure whether or not it would help or hinder them come the next election, especially given the (expected) reduced majority that they've emerged with.
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