I'm sorry, Ewen, but this all started because you didn't like my comment 'frankly I don't see the Lib Dems going anywhere'. Maybe I should have been more precise; frankly, I don't see the Lib Dems beating the Tories, and I don't see them beating Labour in 'this' election'. That may not be a fact as of yet, but I can be pretty sure that it will be very soon.
When I referred to Polls, I literally do mean every daily Poll that is quoted on every News channel, placing the Lib Dems third. I really do not have the time to go and look for Polls that I've seen on TV, and really, I don't have the inclination - I've seen them and so have you, judging from the MORI poll you quoted; most of them do place the Lib Dems third. My observation was that they would stay at third. I have absolutely no disagreements as to the unfair electoral system and I accept all your arguments; I honestly don't see why you're so wound up by an idle comment.
It was not my intention to be patronising, I was trying to avert what seemed to be a heated comment directed at me. Indeed, I have had too many a conversation with my friends (I am a student, and as you may know students favour the Lib Dems at the moment), and I have seen many people who do actually believe that they will beat the Tories and become the main opposition. Now, I don't know if that naive or not, and I sure didn't know what your position is - my prerogative was not to patronise your position in the slightest. I make no assumptions as to what people know or don't know.
There's also the FACTS that Tony Blair AND his party have continuously lied and not delivered on their promises to this country.
I have no false illusions what Tony Blair has done. We all know he lied; I knew it the moment he opened his mouth whenever he was referring to Iraq. The Iraq War is another issue, however, and I'm guessing you may be more interested in discussing domestic policies, and that is where I think I may disagree with you.
Primarily, when it comes to politics, there are very few 'facts' - if it were that easy then voting would be a thousand times easier. The way I see it, Labour have delivered in some respects and downright failed in others, as most politicians and parties do. In terms of policies, I find myself agreeing with the Liberal Democrats more than New Labour, I must say. However, you may believe that I am not voting Lib Dems because of the beliefe that it is a wasted vote (which you are correct in pointing out, a lot of people think that), but that is incorrect. I choose not to vote Lib Dems because I don't agree with the idea of scrapping Tuition fees altogether, believe in targets for the NHS, support the idea of compulsory I.D. cards and don't approve of the idea of local income tax at all.
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