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Old 06-28-2010, 10:21 AM   #961
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https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2091rank.html

USA at 6.14 / 1000

Cuba at 5.72 / 1000

Canada at 4.99 / 1000

Australia at 4.67 / 1000

The US has a high infant mortality rate for a first world country and part of that may relate to its healthcare system.

You are not counting any variants in how the "study was conducted" and how the authors came to these numbers. .

For instance, The US has more babies born in a year than Cuba , and there is a rather large difference in the population. That alone would account the statistically small difference in the higer rate , even though it says " per 1,000 births"

If you look at cancer rates around the world, the methods they used to get thier numbers, could easily account for the difference. Which is statistically small.

They dont say how they got them . As with any study, that is an important quesion. if USA was 18.6 vs cuba 7.9 ( for instance ) then you could look for sppecific reasons, or more likely, a severe flaw in the way they got the numbers.

For what it is, Cuba does offer healthcare ( basic to everyone) . Your out of luck if it gets to be costly.
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Well that's to be said about most studies trying to make such comparisons, even though different studies have shown pretty much the same numbers.

That being said, it really doesn't mean all that much given the context of the thread.
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sounds like your co-worker doesn't want to have a rear window for long*.






*=for those lacking in the ability to recognise a joke, that's one.

So, for someones free speach you advocate smashing their window? Just courous
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So, for someones free speach you advocate smashing their window? Just courous
Did you see the fine print in the post?
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:43 AM   #966
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You know you're screwed when GLENN BECK denounces you and calls you "the dumbest Republican"...
from the comments, the only people looking at his video's are MSNBC, Huffington Post etc. If that is all they can come up with against the Tea Party, they are desperate.

Beck would be the first one in this Country to call this guy what he is.


Now, lets talk about the wonderful human being ( and I use that term in total sacarsm) Mr George Soros. He is a wonderful man isn't he? Pays Mrs Huffingtons billls, that is good right ?

George Soros, called the year he spend taking personal property off the jews right before they got on the trains " The most wonderful year of my life"

There is your Banker. This guy in the video is an idiot, but George Soros is a total sociopath. whats the difference between the 2?

Nothing really, except Soros has more practice and experience
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You and your fellow Tea Partiers are willing to exchange "security" for a complete removal of Constitutional rights, which is why all this babbling about the "loss of freedoms" is such a load of crap.
How would exchanging security result in "complete removal of Consitutional rights? "


I find it odd that keeps coming up, yet, Supporters of this President are mad as hell tht ALL those little things, like gitmo, sending Terrorist suspects to Eygpt for torture, without trial, holding people with no trial etc are all still going on, and even extended by this President.

Didnt he, the very first day he took office, sign and Executive order to close Gitmo in 1 year?

well how long has he been in office? Seems someone got in there and got to read the real story and changed his mind.

Where is the outrage?

That's right, outrage is in Toronto for the weekend.
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Did you see the fine print in the post?
No.. I didnt Violence should have large print. My opinion.
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i like to think it means the tea party has less influence than the wang chest beaters think they do.

if thats true, why is the left afraid of them? Obsessed with them?

If anyone can, I would sure like to hear of one single arrest of a tea party member for anything. Wait there was one .


Name 2 arrests at any tea Party function ? I think we are over 200 in toronto, and that inclludes the sewar rats with bombs.

The best tea party film I have ever seen was MSNBC an the countdown guy screaming about a guy getting beat up in St Louis, a black man he said, and he conviently failed to mention that the "black guy" was with the Union beating up a guy at a wheelchair.

Then there was the alleged machine gun member of the tea party(alleged by MSNBC), but another news org caught him wearing the automatic M-16 with his union shirt. Histerical.

i am not a member of th tea party but it is facinating watching the progs go crazy about them. Why are they really afraid of them?
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If that is all they can come up with against the Tea Party, they are desperate.
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if thats true, why is the left afraid of them? Why are they really afraid of them?
You should go back and read the whole thread, rather than come in at the middle and think you've gotten us all.

It's not fear, it's incredulity.
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from the comments, the only people looking at his video's are MSNBC, Huffington Post etc. If that is all they can come up with against the Tea Party, they are desperate.

Beck would be the first one in this Country to call this guy what he is.


Now, lets talk about the wonderful human being ( and I use that term in total sacarsm) Mr George Soros. He is a wonderful man isn't he? Pays Mrs Huffingtons billls, that is good right ?
How are they desperate? And who are "they"?

No, actually I called this guy an idiot before Glenn, do I win a prize?

And what is up with this transition? What does Soros have to do with any of this?

But your last few posts in here now shine a whole new light on all your previous conspiracy theories and lies.
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More noise

YouTube - Slavery!
Rick Barber! I went to school with him! (Though unless he lost a lot of weight, this is probably not the same guy).
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Serfdom would be more accurate than slavery. The promise of a level of security and equality in exchange for the loss of individual economic liberty.
This is what it boils down to at the end of the day, though isn't it.

I don't want my tax money being used to help poor people.

Why?

Because the poor are shiftless, lazy, and dishonest--obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be poor. Let them die in their hovels--that's what they deserve.

A friend of mine (and yes, she is a good friend--we just happened to deeply disagree on politics) and I were arguing about health care reform a year or so ago, and as I kept pushing her on why she was against it, this is essentially what it came down to.

Which is why even though I strongly agree with the conservative position that government tends to do a poorer job compared to the private sector in almost every area and has little motivation to be efficient or to avoid overspending, I can not be a conservative. The lack of compassion and the disdain for the poor is unacceptable to me.

But all of this is beside the point because frankly, INDY, neither you or any other conservative posters have been able to explain exactly HOW the government is going to cost us taxpayers more. You're great with the snappy little one-liners but you haven't brought a decent argument to the table in months. And it's a shame, because while some wouldn't listen, I would. Heck, I think the last post in the health care thread now languishing on page two was some questions I really would have liked to discuss. But there were no takers.
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How are they desperate? And who are "they"?

No, actually I called this guy an idiot before Glenn, do I win a prize?

And what is up with this transition? What does Soros have to do with any of this?

But your last few posts in here now shine a whole new light on all your previous conspiracy theories and lies.
I don't know about prize, but pretty much everyone would think this guy is an idiot.

The George Soros came up, as the majority posting comments on the linked video, were Huffington Post , MSNBC etc, or citing them as a reasonable alternative to what they want/need the Tea Party to be.

Being the Huffington post, media matters and a host of others who grasp at every hope of toppling the Tea Party are funded by George Soros, the source of funding would be relevent to what comes out of these people.Keep the person paying the bills happy right? Posting everywhere they can try and find an excuse to discredit the tea party.I always ask myself why ? Has to be fear. Been almost 2 years and nothing sticks. Maybe there is a reason for that.

To each his own.

As far as reading the whole thread, I got lost when it morphed into common sense, then Abe and Douglas, to William Buckley to bumper stickers.

It just facinates me that the time and money to attack a group of VFW members or a neighbor , maybe someones grandmother who simply doesn't want to fund a group of Politicians ( and that would be both parties) who's interest is in money and power, deserve so much attention , and cause such fear in the minds of Left media. It is interesting to watch

Beck is a great example. If he is so crazy, why do they spend so much time , effort and money to counter his every word? He is just a disc Jockey. people can listen or not, but why all the attention? Does he deserve it? I don't think so, but the only reasonable conclusion is something fears him. Why?

I find the post about how Tea party people would not understand Buckley interesting and yet, in reviewing a commercial for Becks new book ( a novel by the way ) they slammed the words of the commercial as jibberish, written by a 2 year old , Howled at "the lack of any sentence structure", "Obviously written by a 12 year old " on and on . this was just the television ad, before his book came out .

I guess the Huffington Post had never heard of Rudyard Kipling before . His work is considered brillant by just about everyone, . I guess just not the Huffington post.

theories and lies? What Theory do I have? that statement alone proves everything I am saying. When presented the truth, in any fashion, rather than check, it is Theories and Lies.

If your writing about the fact that Bono first slipped a disk in 2003 and has been treating it since, sorry, it is true. He badly injured it. It is the same one he just had removed. It is very well documented, so maybe spend some time looking rather than weak ad hominem attacks would be more condusive to a forum discussion. . Having a bad back doesn't make him any different than anyone else.. unless that is the issue . is it? If so, I will gladly respect your feelings that he is, but it is helpful to let someone know that .

Anyone who has ever taken basic phsycology class knows that weak tactic. It doesnt work. In fact it will tell you that those who engage in ad hominem attacks are generally talking about themselves.

To be clear, my thoughts about U2 are that they are part of an enormously talented group of people, who's fate had brought them together for some reason. It happens everyday . it doesn't stop them from having the same issues as everyone else. That's my view, just to be clear. that is in no way an agenda. if I didn't like them or thought they were something else, I wouldn't buy CD's and tickets and wouldn't give them a thought.

discussion is alive in well in many places. When it stops or the ability to participate becomes something other than the norm , then you see things like tea parties, Glenn Becks, and Keith Obermans , etc . It's not human nature to participate in "do as I say, not as I do" although many people try .

Bono said not long ago in an interview this very thing about our Country. of course, if I say it, it means it's not true right? Is it true if he says it?

If people lose the ability to discuss, well, might as well turn everyone loose and let's see who comes out on top. That get's us nowhere, but if man doesnt understand reason and that we are blessed with it along with the ability to talk, what's left?

Not much .
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This is what it boils down to at the end of the day, though isn't it.


thinking about it, what INDY was laying out was the basic tenants of civilization.

we give up some money and we get roads, schools, police officers, fire fighters, hospitals, etc.

all this talk about government "waste" is rather amusing. what we talk about cutting amounts to very little in the end. are the GOP and their fierce intellectual Eric Cantor going to bravely cut the NEA? UNESCO?

if you really want to cut spending you have to go after the following: Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and Defense.

want to get serious? now that the average life span is stretching ever more towards 80, let's raise retirement to age 67. let's get a good $1 a gallon gas tax. let's not do things like give $34b to Turkey so that we can maybe use their landing strips so we can invade Iraq.

but of course, no one is going to get serious.
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