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Old 06-02-2010, 06:13 PM   #886
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A University of Washington poll finds that a majority of "true" Tea Party supporters say it's not the responsibility of government to guarantee equal rights to African Americans and other minorities.

According to the survey, 74% of Tea Party supporters say they agree with the following statement: "While equal opportunity for blacks and minorities to succeed is important, it's not really the government's job to guarantee it."

Fifty-two percent of respondents also said that "compared to the size of their group, lesbians and gays have too much political power."

The latest data on the Tea Party reveals that the anger coming from the movement isn't unilaterally directed at government spending -- one of the group's core issues.

According to University of Washington professor Matt Barreto, who directed the poll, the Tea Party's frustration with Washington "is going hand in hand with a frustration and opposition to racial and ethnic minorities and gays and lesbians."

Other noteworthy findings from the University of Washington poll include:

* 88% of Tea Party supporters approve of the controversial immigration law recently enacted in Arizona.

* Only 18% of those surveyed say gay and lesbian couples should have the legal right to marry.

* 73% of Tea Party backers disapprove of President Obama's policy of engaging with Muslim countries.
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their problem is with modernity.

and when the government fucks with their Social Security and Medicare.
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Fifty-two percent of respondents also said that "compared to the size of their group, lesbians and gays have too much political power."
Yeah, because now gay marriage is legal everywhere in the nation and they're getting wonderful treatment and are able to adopt kids anywhere and...oh, wait...

What a charmingly intelligent bunch of people there . The government shouldn't guarantee rights to minorities...yeah, that Civil Rights Act was a real bitch, wasn't it?

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If McDonald's in Texas start hanging signs "we're gay friendly" then I'm boycotting, because I take that as they are not friendly to me.
Just heard that from a very proud tea bagger who has an evening talk show after Hannity.

Charming

They're all so fucking charming...
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. That may well be one of THE dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say.

Do these people just lock themselves in their houses or something? I can't imagine how their poor, fragile mindsets must react when they get into the thing the rest of us like to call the real world.

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Here in Ohio the Tea Party people are trying to get a petition to get Ohio exempted from the federal health care reform laws. They object to the individual mandate to purchase health insurance.

I hope any one who signs this petition is willing to pay full costs up front at the emergency room when they get hurt or fall ill. Either that or have the courage of their convictions to refuse to seek treatment for themselves or their children that they cannot pay for. Because they of all people know it wouldn't be right to just show up at the ER and stick the bill to someone else (since, you know they'll be damned if they'll have the government telling them they HAVE to buy insurance).
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Here in Ohio the Tea Party people are trying to get a petition to get Ohio exempted from the federal health care reform laws. They object to the individual mandate to purchase health insurance.

I hope any one who signs this petition is willing to pay full costs up front at the emergency room when they get hurt or fall ill. Either that or have the courage of their convictions to refuse to seek treatment for themselves or their children that they cannot pay for. Because they of all people know it wouldn't be right to just show up at the ER and stick the bill to someone else (since, you know they'll be damned if they'll have the government telling them they HAVE to buy insurance).
I just wish these tea baggers(and certain "providers" here) actually understood current insurance and how they worked...
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I think some of them, like the guy who made that McDonald's comment, are still trying to figure out how to tie their shoes every morning, so we may have to wait a while before they figure out anything even remotely complex.

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Here in Ohio the Tea Party people are trying to get a petition to get Ohio exempted from the federal health care reform laws.
health costs are going to keep going up, double digit each year, way ahead of inflation
health insurance costs will go up even faster
employers will shift more and more of the costs on to their employees

and it is only a matter of a few years before we have real health care melt down

when that happens many will lay the blame at the feet of Obama,
they will claim everything was working just fine, until Obama came along and got Obama care passed, then it went down hill real fast.
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and it is only a matter of a few years before we have real health care melt down

when that happens many will lay the blame at the feet of Obama,
they will claim everything was working just fine, until Obama came along and got Obama care passed, then it went down hill real fast.
But that's an intellectually untenable position. Unfortunately things like reason and facts don't seem to matter much to the Tea Party movement. That to me is the greater shame of this movement--not the ideas are so reprehensible--that is up for debate, but that there seems to be lack of any of really intellectual substance behind it. Or at least the blowhards of the movement seem to be the ones drowning out any substance that might be there.
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health costs are going to keep going up, double digit each year, way ahead of inflation
health insurance costs will go up even faster
employers will shift more and more of the costs on to their employees

and it is only a matter of a few years before we have real health care melt down

when that happens many will lay the blame at the feet of Obama,
they will claim everything was working just fine, until Obama came along and got Obama care passed, then it went down hill real fast.
No, they will rightfully blame the president for diagnosing the problem incorrectly and prescribing the wrong treatment thus making the situation worse. The president chose to ignore public opinion and create a new entitlement, spend more money we don't have, increase government mandates and reduce consumer choice, increase regulations, increase taxes, ignore tort reform and further shift healthcare decisions from individuals to bureaucrats in Washington.
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No, they will rightfully blame the president for diagnosing the problem incorrectly and prescribing the wrong treatment thus making the situation worse. The president chose to ignore public opinion and create a new entitlement, spend more money we don't have, increase government mandates and reduce consumer choice, increase regulations, increase taxes, ignore tort reform and further shift healthcare decisions from individuals to bureaucrats in Washington.
How is it that health care providers as yourself don't understand the current state of healthcare and insurance? It baffles me!

Tort is something that needs to be dealt with but not in a healthcare bill, this is something every educated American should know.

One of the big questions is why do you think life is not entitled to all Americans?
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The president chose to ignore public opinion and create a new entitlement
...I thought a good portion of the country wanted healthcare reform, a public option, all that sort of thing? Keep in mind, some of the anger in this country right now towards Obama is from people who didn't think he went far enough. They're not affiliated with the Tea Party movement, but still...

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No, they will rightfully blame the president for diagnosing the problem incorrectly and prescribing the wrong treatment thus making the situation worse. The president chose to ignore public opinion and create a new entitlement, spend more money we don't have, increase government mandates and reduce consumer choice, increase regulations, increase taxes, ignore tort reform and further shift healthcare decisions from individuals to bureaucrats in Washington.
What's the new entitlement?

Was there a new federal agency that was created?
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No, they will rightfully blame the president for diagnosing the problem incorrectly and prescribing the wrong treatment thus making the situation worse. The president chose to ignore public opinion and create a new entitlement, spend more money we don't have, increase government mandates and reduce consumer choice, increase regulations, increase taxes, ignore tort reform and further shift healthcare decisions from individuals to bureaucrats in Washington.


and those fucking blacks and mexicans are going to get health care now. and we're going to be paying for it!

come on, that's the real issue, isn't it? let's just be honest. the GOP is being honest with their pull-the-browns-over policies in AZ. you can be too.
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