The Tea Party

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Tribal tea partiers hold rally

TOM LUTEY Of The Gazette Staff | Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:56 pm | (64) Comments

LARRY MAYER/Gazette Staff

Karmelita Plains Bull Martin organized the first Tea Party protest by Crow tribal members in Hardin on Monday, February 15, 2010. Tea Party members from Billings, Great Falls, Townsend, Bozeman, Big Timber and Miles City drove to Hardin to show support for the newest Tea Party chapter near the Crow Indian Reservation.


Tea Party group starts up on Crow reservation

The Crow Nation 1825 Peace Treaty Allotee Land Commission joins the Tea Party movement in hopes to end government control on the Crow reservation.


HARDIN — Calling for new tribal leadership and a break from the federal government, founders of the first Crow Indian Tea Party movement rallied Monday in Hardin.

Leading the new Crow Nation Tea Party was Adrian Bird Sr., a former tribal chairman candidate who recently filed a civil complaint against the Crow executive branch alleging malfeasance for mismanaging tribal funds.

Bird, his wife, Lavanna, and fellow Tea Party founder Karmelita Plains Bull Martin are seeking to impeach the tribe’s four executives and take the Indian government in a different direction.

“We want them out of there because they are mismanaging tribal funds,” Bird said. “We need to get the people together.”

The Birds and Plains Bull Martin accuse the administration of mismanaging “tribal funds regarding education, employment, housing, casino finances,” and they accuse the tribal leadership of “total disregard of our laws and policies as the Crow Nation.”

Bird said the tribe would be better off if it developed the natural resources on the reservation, lived by tribal laws and declined federal government assistance.

Chairman Cedric Black Eagle, who could not be reached for comment at his office Monday, must respond to the civil complaint this week. He earlier said he was consulting with an attorney on how to proceed.

Plains Bull Martin said the new Tea Party group also objects to the management of the Indian Health Services, which guarantees coverage only to Indians living on the Crow Reservation and doesn’t offer preventative care.
“It’s a crisis facility. There’s no intensive or preventative health care,” Plains Bull Martin said.

Former IHS pediatrician Dr. Michael Garver backed Plains Bull Martin’s concerns, calling IHS “probably a way of not feeling guilt ridden for putting them on a reservation” for the federal government.

Garver, who now practices in Great Falls, said American Indians would be better served if they were placed on Medicaid, which would provide them with better coverage no matter where they lived.

By tying health care to the reservation, the government has put American Indians in the position of choosing poor housing and economic conditions in order to receive health care, critics say.

Plains Bull Martin and others also accused the Crow Nation of not using the Indian Child Welfare Act to give native families first preference for Indian foster children and to notify immediate family members of where child relatives were being placed within the foster system.



“It’s human trafficking, and Crow Nation kids are not for sale,” Plains Bull Martin said. “The tribe is not using the Indian Child Welfare Act.”

Other Tea Party members from across the state joined the Crow Nation Tea Party in demonstrating at Hardin’s only downtown stoplight. The groups gathered at every corner of the intersection with placards denouncing health care reform, climate change legislation and excessive federal government.
They elicited honks from passersby during the noon rally.
“We just wanted to be supportive of these people,” said Ken Champion of Bozeman. “Anybody who stands for freedom and liberty and opposed to unrestricted government spending, we want to support.”

Contact Tom Lutey attlutey@billingsgazette.com or 657-1288.

These must be " just the stupid Indians", that can't think for themselves, right- FYMers?


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[BVS]

You sure know your history there Diamond

Reservations have been having these protests for decades... leave up to your kind to notice now.

 

[diamond]

You sure know your history there Diamond

Reservations have been having these protests for decades... leave up to your kind to notice now.

It says "Karmelita Plains Bull Martin organized the first Tea Party protest by Crow tribal members in Hardin on Monday, February 15, 2010."

You *may* have to move your head from a certain orafice to realize that.



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[BVS]

Does the Tea Party think they are the first to protest the government? So all the previous protest didn't matter because they weren't linked with ultra-right anti-intellectual hate?

 

[Vincent Vega]

Before the tea parties, only no-real Americans and traitors protested.

 

[Muldfeld]

Whenever I see the Tea Party people I try to think of what Noam Chomsky said:
FORA.tv - Noam Chomsky: Philosophies of Language & Politics
(click #4)

 

[PhilsFan]

If you can't copy and paste an article with a bunch of underlines, you really aren't making an argument, are you?

 

[Irvine511]

well, gee, seems like the CPAC thing-y do over at the Omni in Woodley Park is going really well:

YouTube - Your Homophobic CPAC Moment, Featuring Ryan Sorba


good for the crowd, though. looks like the kids -- even the far right kids attending the conference -- know better.

also interesting to note that Ron Paul won the straw pool, over Romney. and Palin.

granted, the CPAC is an expression of Id, ideology, and base anger, rather than a flexing of actual political muscle, but one has to wonder what's going on.

 

[PhilsFan]

Freedom of opinion, Irvine. Freedom of opinion, freedom of opinion.

Solid defense by the host lady.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

So they're against jobs?

Which Enraged Scott Brown Facebook Fan Comment Is Your Favorite? - scott brown - Gawker

Disrespecting teabaggers and voting for jobs for the people of your home state will not be tolerated, damn it. And you're Facebook page (and your daughter's) will suffer the consequences.

 

[BVS]

They make me laugh... all of them.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Someone posted this on Wonkette

That guy had a shorter honeymoon than Ernest Borgnine and Martha Ray

I bet all the Tea Partiers will burn his Cosmo centerfold in effigy

Is his nose as big as..nevermind

Scott must have been defriended so many times today.

 

[UberBeaver]

YouTube - Your Homophobic CPAC Moment, Featuring Ryan Sorba

Well that was a wasted opportunity, no? What a tool.




I like Ron Paul. He seems like he's got his head on straight and actually gives a shit. I would say that if Obama can't get some shit done in the next couple of years, Paul would be a good guy to run against him as a lot of moderates / independents would probably go for him. That being said, and politics being what it is today, the Reps will probably throw that batshit insane, egomaniac Sarah Palin at him, in which case, they will lose. Because she's a moron. Then again, so was W. Maybe they'll go with Ryan Sorbal. He seems solid.

What has this country come to?

 

[BVS]

Glenn Beck Urges Listeners to Leave Churches That Preach Social Justice -- Politics Daily

The baggers have class

 

[martha]

Oh my God. What a complete and total asshole.

And a moron to boot.

Is he serious or just cashing in? Although, if he's just cashing in, that's even worse.

Now I see why people really think Nazis and Commies are the same thing. Because this dumbshit said they were.

Words just cannot express my contempt for this fuck and the idiots who think he's right.

 

[Diemen]

I'm of the opinion that Glenn Beck doesn't believe a word he's saying. Which doesn't make his followers look any better...

 

[LPU2]

I'm of the opinion that Glenn Beck doesn't believe a word he's saying. Which doesn't make his followers look any better...

I agree. I've said elsewhere that I would not at all be surprised if in a few years Glen Beck reveals that he's been engaged in a socio-political experiment to measure just how much bullshit people will swallow before their bullshit detectors go off.

I have a German heritage and I've always been fascinated by how good, mother-loving German citizens and military personnel were so easily manipulated by Hitler's propaganda.

Beck is German, too, isn't he? I think maybe the whole tea party is the developing result of a grand experiment to show the world that it isn't just Germans—that anyone, even a big segment of Americans, can be swayed to believe the most ridiculous things if the voice of propaganda is loud enough and expertly exploits their fears.

My first clue was the crying bit. I've seen better acting in 8th grade drama. He's either a soul-less charlatan preying on stupid people for money. Or it's all an experiment.

It can't be anything else.

 

[UberBeaver]

a soul-less charlatan preying on stupid people for money.

That's it. He's a snake oil salesman. He will remembered (along with many others in the "News Opinion Business" - whatever you call him, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc - maybe Olberman to a degree) in the same vein as those scammers / exploiters. How people cannot see the harm that this causes amazes me.

 

[Vincent Vega]

Yesterday I read a somewhat apt comparison of Fox News to the Völkischer Beobachter: generate hatred and spread stupidity. I know some will disagree, but I don't.

 

[trojanchick99]

Re: Beck

I'm not religious at all, but last I checked Jesus was all about helping the sick and poor. Isn't Christianity about helping the helpless?

Beck's show would be pure comedy if it weren't for the fact that I know too many people who believe every word he says.

 

[BVS]

I'm of the opinion that Glenn Beck doesn't believe a word he's saying. Which doesn't make his followers look any better...

I think it's one of two scenarios:

a. He's a a recovering alcoholic, and most alcoholics will fill their life with extremes, i.e. working out, work, religion, etc... So he actually does believe in this shit.

or

b. He is/was slightly disenfranchised but quickly realized that there's money to be made in extremity.

 

[Diemen]

but quickly realized that there's money to be made in extremity.

Bingo. The man used to be a morning radio shock jock.

 

[LPU2]

That's it. He's a snake oil salesman. He will remembered (along with many others in the "News Opinion Business" - whatever you call him, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc - maybe Olberman to a degree) in the same vein as those scammers / exploiters. How people cannot see the harm that this causes amazes me.

I think it's dangerous. It pushes run of the mill partisans to the extremes and those already on the extremes off the edge. It renders the truth unrecognizable and, consequently, irrelevant.

Whether it's health care, global warming, Iraq, it doesn't matter. It seems no one can hear truth anymore if it comes dressed as the opposition.

It used to be that truth's biggest friend was time. Over time people will see the truth. But even that's not true anymore. Propaganda can even change the past! I can't count how many people I've spoken to who now actually believe that Roosevelt EXTENDED the Depression, Hitler was a Socialist, Kennedy would be a republican today, and Ronald Reagan was Jesus.

 

[LPU2]

Re: Beck

I'm not religious at all, but last I checked Jesus was all about helping the sick and poor. Isn't Christianity about helping the helpless?.

I am religious. It is about helping the sick and the poor.

But imagine...if you can get people to believe in death panels and death camps and forced abortions and health insurance for dogs, then you can get them to believe anything. And if you can get them to believe anything, then you can get them to believe that Obama is a Socialist, the government is after them and that the free market is infallible. If you do that, then the only remaining reason to be a Democrat is the idea of social justice.

Now...if you can...

 

[financeguy]

Is he serious or just cashing in? Although, if he's just cashing in, that's even worse.

He is either a clever opportunist or as BVS said has dry drunk syndrome.

 

[INDY500]

Re: Beck

I'm not religious at all, but last I checked Jesus was all about helping the sick and poor. Isn't Christianity about helping the helpless?

So... because of the separation of church and state then opponents of Obamacare and the Welfare State should argue that they are unconstitutional because they impose the Christian religion and the teachings of Jesus onto society through the oppressive might of the federal government.

That's brilliant !! Why didn't we heartless conservatives think of that?

 

[BVS]

So... because of the separation of church and state then opponents of Obamacare and the Welfare State should argue that they are unconstitutional because they impose the Christian religion and the teachings of Jesus onto society through the oppressive might of the federal government.

That's brilliant !! Why didn't we heartless conservatives think of that?

Consistency is definately not ya'lls strong suit, so give it a shot. The tea baggers wouldn't see the irony anyways.

 

[coolian2]

So... because of the separation of church and state then opponents of Obamacare and the Welfare State should argue that they are unconstitutional because they impose the Christian religion and the teachings of Jesus onto society through the oppressive might of the federal government.

That's brilliant !! Why didn't we heartless conservatives think of that?

damn. if he told you to jump off a bridge would you do that too?

 

[nathan1977]

I'm not religious at all, but last I checked Jesus was all about helping the sick and poor. Isn't Christianity about helping the helpless?

The generosity of churches and faith communities in times of crisis is well-documented, actually... many, many churches have sent doctors, food, aid, and finances to the recent victims in Haiti and Chile, for example. Many more spend their weekends feeding the homeless, serving people in need, etc. And a number of Christian healthcare co-ops etc. have sprung up over the past several years in response to spiralling health care costs, specifically designed to provide affordable health care to those who need it. They don't get the PR because they're too busy out there trying to make a difference.

INDY makes an interesting point.

 

[Diemen]

The generosity of churches and faith communities in times of crisis is well-documented, actually... many, many churches have sent doctors, food, aid, and finances to the recent victims in Haiti and Chile, for example. Many more spend their weekends feeding the homeless, serving people in need, etc. And a number of Christian healthcare co-ops etc. have sprung up over the past several years in response to spiralling health care costs, specifically designed to provide affordable health care to those who need it. They don't get the PR because they're too busy out there trying to make a difference.

Exactly. So why the hell would Glenn Beck urge his followers to leave churches that make a point of championing such things?