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Old 04-26-2010, 04:11 PM   #811
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How much of the 'stimulus' has been spent so far? Half?
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Old 04-26-2010, 04:14 PM   #812
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saving the rest for the Nov elections
we need to spend it where it will do the most good (get the desired results)
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saving the rest for the nov elections
we need to spend it where it will do the most good (get the desired results)

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we need to spend it where it will do the most good (get the desired results)


this is quite correct. watch it all kick in this summer.
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getting back on topic: Tea Party

they get all the credit for ending Charlie Crist

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Charlie Crist and the End of Incumbency
Andrew Belonsky :: Monday, April 26th, 2010 1:45 pm

Charlie Crist once held court as a Republican darling. The Florida Governor’s name had been bandied about as a potential running mate for John McCain, 2012 and just a few months ago looked like a shoe-in for the party’s Senatorial nomination. Now he may run as an independent. The Crist situation illustrates what may be the end of incumbency as we know it, and the Democrats best take notice.

By the end of this week, Crist’s fate will have been decided. The Governor has confirmed reports that he may reject the Republican label and run as an independent, thanks in part to official opposition from his party peers and to a chummy appearance with President Obama last year, which conservative take as an act of betrayal. Rob Jesmer of the National Republican Senatorial Committee sent out a memo last week insisting that Crist’s friends must pressure him to exit the race.

“We believe there is zero chance Governor Crist continues running in the Republican primary,” explained Jesmer. “It’s our view that if Governor Crist believes he cannot win a primary then the proper course of action is he drop out of the race and wait for another day.” Challenger Marco Rubio, a newcomer who has tremendous Tea Party support, has now become the party’s Floridian poster boy and received endorsements from party power players like Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney and Dick Armey. Incumbents are far too unfashionable for official support.
and are on their way to putting FL firmly in GOP column again, too early to call 2012, but they have the momentum
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they get all the credit for ending Charlie Crist



and are on their way to putting FL firmly in GOP column again, too early to call 2012, but they have the momentum
We'll see what the Latin vote makes of any immigration reform/new state laws though. The GOP/Tea Partiers can't alienate (< see what I did there) Latinos/Hispanics or they'll never win much of anything again.
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most of FL Latins are Cuban and trend heavy GOP
plus they have special status, with immigration
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I hope the idiot TPs make all the Republican candidates too conservative and scare the shit out of normal people. Then Democrats can win.
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most of FL Latins are Cuban and trend heavy GOP
plus they have special status, with immigration
Oh, I know about FL and Cubans, but with Hispanics being the fastest growing group in the U.S., the Republicans could be in trouble in many states--AZ and FL, not to mention CA, NV, UT, TX. Plus, I don't know what percentage of FL's population is of Cuban heritage, but you have to believe it has been or will be eclipsed by Hispanics from other places in Latin America and the rest of the U.S.

If AZ's law goes into effect and any legal Hispanic is hassled, I think there will be a fairly united response from their community.
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Oh, I know about FL and Cubans, but with Hispanics being the fastest growing group in the U.S., the Republicans could be in trouble in many states--AZ and FL, not to mention CA, NV, UT, TX. Plus, I don't know what percentage of FL's population is of Cuban heritage, but you have to believe it has been or will be eclipsed by Hispanics from other places in Latin America and the rest of the U.S.

If AZ's law goes into effect and any legal Hispanic is hassled, I think there will be a fairly united response from their community.
Republicans underestimated Cali's Hispanic population once. It didn't go quite the way they hoped it would. Most analysts here say the Repubs are still suffering somewhat for their mistakes.
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Oh, I know about FL and Cubans, but with Hispanics being the fastest growing group in the U.S., the Republicans could be in trouble in many states--AZ and FL, not to mention CA, NV, UT, TX. Plus, I don't know what percentage of FL's population is of Cuban heritage, but you have to believe it has been or will be eclipsed by Hispanics from other places in Latin America and the rest of the U.S.

If AZ's law goes into effect and any legal Hispanic is hassled, I think there will be a fairly united response from their community.
CA is solidly Dem
UT and TX are solid GOP
AZ is in no danger of going Dem, even with this legislation.

NV not sure, they say Harry Reid is in serious trouble, GOP could pick him off this Nov.
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CA is solidly Dem
UT and TX are solid GOP
AZ is in no danger of going Dem, even with this legislation.

NV not sure, they say Harry Reid is in serious trouble, GOP could pick him off this Nov.
But you're talking only national and state-wide elections.

It's got to be considered on a local level, too. There are places in Texas that are fairly blue, largely due to the Hispanic populations. Those places start to add up, especially if they are rural areas. Republicans generally don't fair well in large cities, they need the suburbs and rural areas to win on a state-wide level (and therefore nationally, too).

This next census tally will really tell us a lot. The redistricting that follows will be interesting.
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Why wouldn't Texas, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and (I guess) Colorado and New Mexico become semi-solid blue?

I mean- Every time I visit those states, most people I see are Hispanic/Latino, African American, and Asian American.
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I mean- Every time I visit those states, most people I see are Hispanic/Latino, African American, and Asian American.

by courting the racists, the GOP has cut it's future short. the Southern Strategy will only hold for so long.

(though it's admittedly worked pretty well from 1964-2004)
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by courting the racists, the GOP has cut it's future short. the Southern Strategy will only hold for so long.

(though it's admittedly worked pretty well from 1964-2004)
Southern Strategy did not kick in until around 70-72 elections.
and held just fine in 2006 and 2008, without it anti-Bush vote would have given Dems even bigger margins.

Bush won't be as big of a deal in 2012, it is only a question of how big anti Obama vote will be.
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