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Old 04-23-2010, 04:31 PM   #736
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I don't think anyone is begging him,

it seems he is fighting to hang on
this is the highest profile position he has had.

where can he get elected as a GOP candidate? please name some black GOP elected office holders? they can't get past the primaries,

of course we should not forget the GOP is the party of Lincoln, but it is a shame when one has to go back over 100 years to find a time when the GOP actually seemed to care about people of color.
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of course we should not forget the GOP is the party of Lincoln, but it is a shame when one has to go back over 100 years to find a time when the GOP actually seemed to care about people of color.
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In a 1970 interview with The New York Times, Nixon political strategist Kevin Phillips outlined the GOP's new strategy: "From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that ... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
That's just 40 years ago and could one be more openly racist? (Not to say they haven't come a long ways from that, at least in my perception.)
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of course we should not forget the GOP is the party of Lincoln, but it is a shame when one has to go back over 100 years to find a time when the GOP actually seemed to care about people of color.
Or women, gays, poor, the list goes on and on...
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they do a little better on some of those
the party of Teddy Roosevelt, (only a 100 years )
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Or women, gays, poor, the list goes on and on...
It's a "big tent."

I can't remember which GOP campaign used that slogan. I think it was the first time Bush 1 ran for office.
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it ensures equality of opportunity for a healthy mix of the rich and the ignorant.
Are Democrats giving back their Wall Street donations from the last ten years?
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See how deregulation works so well?
Our current cycle seems to be to deregulate just enough to cause a problem (yet still keep out real competition) - then come back with much stronger regulations to REALLY keep out the competition.
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Our current cycle seems to be to deregulate just enough to cause a problem (yet still keep out real competition) - then come back with much stronger regulations to REALLY keep out the competition.
I'd comment on this if I could hear you over the noise of my absurd bills to go to a public university. Over $100,000.
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I'd comment on this if I could hear you over the noise of my absurd bills to go to a public university. Over $100,000.
Do you think it's possible the rising cost of tuition is connected to vast amounts of low interest, government backed loans that were put into the system the last 10 years?

If everyone in the country has $100,000 to spend on college - then all colleges will charge at least $100,000 to attend (the more select will make the cost even higher.)

Just a thought.
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but that's the thing, not everyone has that much money. people have to borrow it to get a degree which the vast majority of jobs require. so lower and middle class students have to incur vast amounts of debt just to get a job above minimum wage.

this doesn't even mention what can happen if you need more money than the government will loan you so you have to turn to private loans.
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but that's the thing, not everyone has that much money. people have to borrow it to get a degree which the vast majority of jobs require. so lower and middle class students have to incur vast amounts of debt just to get a job above minimum wage.
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The vicious cycle of easy lending and the resulting inflation of prices for the product in which the money is leant has already pushed tuition well beyond the normal marketplace conditions. I’m hopeful that one good thing that will come from the recent downturn is that people will take on less debt, and tuition will normalize.

Our society benefits from an educated society – and we should do everything possible to encourage all economic classes to go to college. However, we also don’t want a condition were an entire generation or two of graduates are essentially slaves to the banks.
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The vicious cycle of easy lending and the resulting inflation of prices for the product in which the money is leant has already pushed tuition well beyond the normal marketplace conditions. I’m hopeful that one good thing that will come from the recent downturn is that people will take on less debt, and tuition will normalize.

Our society benefits from an educated society – and we should do everything possible to encourage all economic classes to go to college. However, we also don’t want a condition were an entire generation or two of graduates are essentially slaves to the banks.
I'm totally with you on this one. Banks have had it easy lending to students with the backing of the government. It basically has been an arms race akin to the housing bubble. Demand drives up price, banks lend to satisfy the demand of a "good" college education. Banks and arms dealers are the only ones who profit from that.

I think it's a safe argument to say that higher education benefits you, but it does sound suspiciously close to the mantra that was going on during the housing bubble, "Home ownership is the key to middle-class wealth." So buy a bigger, more expensive house now! What are you, a loser?

It didn't belong, but that's another reason I'm glad HCR passed with the student lending provision in it.
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Our society benefits from an educated society -
I should have proofread this. I meant to say society benefits from an educated population.
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