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Old 04-23-2010, 12:15 AM   #721
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Work for free and live in equal poverty?

You've went from rational discussion to sounding like a Glenn Beck listener in two posts.
I wanted to point out that there is nothing wrong with a doctor wanting profits and to earn a great living from years of education and remarkable skill. If they weren’t paid well – we would certainly have less of them willing to go through such a tough and arduous preparation.

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A hospital I work with here in town has about 60% of their patients covered with insurance. But only looking at a 38% rate of reimbursement for the last several years. That's fucking ridiculous.
This makes me angry also. We agree that changes need to be made. We obviously disagree on the cause and the cure.
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:16 AM   #722
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But tort reform needs to happen separately from health reform.
I certainly agree with this.
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...someone who would go through 8 to 10 years of schooling/training in order to work for free and live in equal poverty? Hopefully he can find somone like himself to work on him when he gets ill...
Oh yeah, all the doctors I know here in socialist Canookistan are slumming it with their $300K salaries once they're done their residency. Get real.
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:29 AM   #724
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I wanted to point out that there is nothing wrong with a doctor wanting profits and to earn a great living from years of education and remarkable skill. If they weren’t paid well – we would certainly have less of them willing to go through such a tough and arduous preparation.
I don't disagree, that original post was more against "profit choosing care" insurance companies.
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I agree with all of this. You're a Democrat?


j/k
Registered Democrat from age 18, never missed an election. Check

Independent thinker who knows when the far left or interest groups are wrong. Check.

Though you hear a lot of noise from the extremes(left and right) my views I don't think are that far off from most Democratic elected officials. Especially on the US Senate side of the equation.

If it helps to think of someone in office closest to my views, think Mark Warner from Virginia.

Take what you want from this, but my primary 1 and 2 preferences in 2008 were Biden and Richardson. Obama in the middle(he had to do a fair amount of winning me over), Hillary, Kucinich and Edwards at the bottom.

You don't have to like or agree with Biden and Richardson to know that my preferences did not run with the ideologues!

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Oh yeah, all the doctors I know here in socialist Canookistan are slumming it with their $300K salaries once they're done their residency. Get real.
Do they have $60K/yr malpractice insurance premiums (many specialties higher)? About $100K of student loan debts after graduation?
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Do they have $60K/yr malpractice insurance premiums (many specialties higher)? About $100K of student loan debts after graduation?
Not sure about the former, as I am only familiar with lawyer insurance premiums and have never asked. Definitely yes to the latter, at least in Ontario, since the province deregulated professional tuition fees (medical school, law school, dentistry) some years ago and they were permitted to skyrocket. The current government is holding them to an 8% increase per year I believe, at the moment, but that's really not particularly helpful.

Many of my former law school classmates are in a similar situation.
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Definitely yes to the latter, at least in Ontario, since the province deregulated professional tuition fees (medical school, law school, dentistry) some years ago and they were permitted to skyrocket.
See how deregulation works so well?
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Do they have $60K/yr malpractice insurance premiums (many specialties higher)? About $100K of student loan debts after graduation?
So after 240,000 a year, if you don't buy the BMW and the million dollar home right away you can pay off that 100,000 pretty quickly.

I thought you were a fiscal conservative? That should be easy for you to figure out.
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See how deregulation works so well?


it ensures equality of opportunity for a healthy mix of the rich and the ignorant.
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I have thought that Michael Steele, who is the head of the GOP, would not last much longer, I thought the tea bag portion of the GOP coalition would have his scalp soon.


this may be the last straw

Michael Steele's 'Southern Strategy' Gaffe Might Be Anything But -
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Steele falling behind on pledge to woo more minorities to GOP



GOP wonders why a black man can't attrack more 'darkies' to their party?
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If anything I think it will win points for the Tea Party portion of the GOP.
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I keep thinking Steele will be pushed out.

They have lost some major donors.

He will probably announce he is choosing to step down for other opportunities; write a book, become a T V commentator, a la Palin.

He may stick it out for the Nov elections, like Rumsfeld did,
but after that, adios amigo.
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Yeah, it should be interesting...

I see what you're saying, he's suffered some big blows lately, but another part of me believes that if he does step down it will just solidfy the notion that the GOP is party for white straight men. Palin quit, Powell "sold them out", and then Steele quits

I wonder if there are some begging him to stay on just for that fact...
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