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Old 07-11-2007, 06:12 PM   #256
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I directly blame the CIA and other intelligence services, not Bush. I believe he was misled.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:14 PM   #257
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So there are not millions of people with a lack of proper food, starving, struggling for basic freedom rights, under a retarded dictator enjoying movies in his private cinema room in North Korea?
So there were not hundreds of thousands Kurds, Shi'ite's that were executed and brutally murdered in Iraq b/c of Saddam Hussein. Not a good argument.
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I directly blame the CIA and other intelligence services, not Bush. I believe he was misled.
Yet you blame Clinton? Wow, your bias isn't transparent...
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what does that have to do with anything? in order to support wars you have to be enlisted? that's original.
It has a lot to do with the ease of supporting a war you don't have to fight. I think if your "patriotic" ass were on the line for all these wars you want to start all over the world, you'd be singing a different tune.
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So there were not hundreds of thousands Kurds, Shi'ite's that were dying in Iraq b/c of Saddam Hussein. Not a good argument.
No, it's a perfectly reasonable argument. Both are tyrants keeping their people in abject poverty while having absolute power.

Plus, it was at least confirmed that North Korea possessed nuclear weapons. Do you remember the nuclear bomb test in '06?
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I directly blame the CIA and other intelligence services, not Bush. I believe he was misled.
Did Rush tell you this?
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Yet you blame Clinton? Wow, your bias isn't transparent...
yes, for 9/11 i do blame clinton. for the iraqi war intelligence, i blame the CIA and FBI.
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It has a lot to do with the ease of supporting a war you don't have to fight. I think if your "patriotic" ass were on the line for all these wars you want to start all over the world, you'd be singing a different tune.
stfu. don't tell me when or how to be patriotic. if the time calls, i will proudly serve my country.
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if the time calls, i will proudly serve my country.
It's not calling now?
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yes, for 9/11 i do blame clinton. for the iraqi war intelligence, i blame the CIA and FBI.
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stfu.
Nice. What an intelligent response.

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don't tell me when or how to be patriotic. if the time calls, i will proudly serve my country.
The time is here, son. If you genuinely believe this war is worth fighting, then the time is here.
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Nice. What an intelligent response.



The time is here, son. If you genuinely believe this war is worth fighting, then the time is here.
you don't know what i am doing, so don't make accusations. who says that i am not? i would be saying my future collegiate plans, but i have learned that i will not discuss personal situations on this forum.
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i would be saying my future collegiate plans, but i have learned that i will not discuss personal situations on this forum.
College to get out of serving in the military during a war?! I thought only Clinton did that!
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So there were not hundreds of thousands Kurds, Shi'ite's that were executed and brutally murdered in Iraq b/c of Saddam Hussein. Not a good argument.
The argument is, that Kim Yong Ill isn't the better guy only because he "negotiated".
The argument is, that you can't say it was right to invade country X with dictator X, and leave out country Y with dictator Y, with such a poor justification, and such a low backing from other countries and the UN.
The argument is, that there was no deer need in ending the brutal dictatorship in Iraq, that wasn't in another country, either. Like the Darfur region in the Sudan, where at the same time the process of a genocide was already going on. Something we said "Never again!" in 1945, in 1993, in 1995, and in the years in between.
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Forget it. Sorry Irvine, but this isn't going anywhere.

Several people in here could stand to bite their tongue a little more often when they know they've got nothing constructive to say. That would help a lot to avoid careening train wrecks like this ensuing.

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Remember what we talked about--you can consider this a second formal warning. I don't care what anyone's tone with you was like, this is never an acceptable response.
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