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Old 06-05-2005, 09:51 PM   #46
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When I think about genetic engineering, I think less about Nazism or eugenics. Rather, I think about the film, "Gattica," where, instead of blatantly trying to eliminate undesirable people, those who weren't genetic engineered suffered from prejudice in the workplace. That is, those who were genetically engineered were smarter and stronger, and, as such, made naturally born humans inferior and undesirable from an economic standpoint. I think that's more of a reasonable fear of genetically-engineering humans than Nazi-style eugenics.

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I think that it could be a utopia, although mutation can randomly give rise to adventageous traits.

Oh and it is Gattaga, it uses the base pairs in DNA.

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In modern society, evolution is dead amongst human beings. Evolution only happens in isolation--that is, "inbreeding"--and human society has generally developed a huge aversion to incestuous relationships.

In animals, though, it's certainly observable. There's the Galapagos Islands, for one, which was Darwin's original inspiration. Less remembered is the Isle of Man, which, while it is wedged between Ireland and Great Britain, it was virtually isolated until the 20th century. Cats there had evolved out of their tails.

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Sally Cinnamon Bun, good points. We all know rather intelligent people who, for all intents and purposes, are frankly fucking stupid.

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In modern society, evolution is dead amongst human beings. Evolution only happens in isolation--that is, "inbreeding"--and human society has generally developed a huge aversion to incestuous relationships.

In animals, though, it's certainly observable. There's the Galapagos Islands, for one, which was Darwin's original inspiration. Less remembered is the Isle of Man, which, while it is wedged between Ireland and Great Britain, it was virtually isolated until the 20th century. Cats there had evolved out of their tails.

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We only have a few thousand years of modern human society and homo sapiens have only existed for a few hundred thousand years, we do not percieve geological time, we are unable to see broader change in our short lifetimes.

Humans will evolve either through natural process or our own intervention.
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We only have a few thousand years of modern human society and homo sapiens have only existed for a few hundred thousand years, we do not percieve geological time, we are unable to see broader change in our short lifetimes.

Humans will evolve either through natural process or our own intervention.
I think our own intervention is more likely, since we are no longer isolated and inbreeding is far less common.

I do conceive of a day in the future, where we'll be as adept in manipulating DNA as we are in programming computer software. Rather than implanting animal DNA into human DNA or vice versa, I think it's conceivable that we could write completely new DNA strands to change us into something completely different.

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Remember that it is not only inbreeding that leads to change, sexual reproduction by itself produces a lot of variation, and mutation and the environmental factors on it's frequency do as well.
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When I think about genetic engineering, I think less about Nazism or eugenics. Rather, I think about the film, "Gattica,"
So in essence you're worried that with genetic engineering, we'll breed a race of Ethan Hawkes?
Best argument against it I've ever heard.
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So in essence you're worried that with genetic engineering, we'll breed a race of Ethan Hawkes?
Best argument against it I've ever heard.
Ethan Hawke played the natural born, unaltered human.

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Ethan Hawke played the natural born, unaltered human.

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I know that, I wasn't referring to the movie characters, I was referring to freeing the world of Ethan Hawke.
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